BR based on overall average raiting

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What is there to think about PvP ? If we throw a “skill” factor aside since its broad and has too many variables, then we can look at the stats of guns where this PPSh you are suggesting has faster TTK than Mp40.
So in said “PVP” situation in equal terms the ppsh wins.

Quite sure majority of kills you get in regular squad game are indeed bots and I believe your argument was 1mp40 +3 bots with MP40 are better than 1 player with PPSh.
So I think the “PVE” example is quite relevant to prove the AI definitely aint good enough to consider 1ppsh vs 1+3 mp40 as equal or even balanced.

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Yes I noticed that the 4 mp40s in the example became 3, as the number decreases the advantage of the squad equipped with mp40s decreases

I think 3 is a very critical critical point. If it becomes 2, it will be difficult to average and compare them.

Either way, you increase your potential retries by one more weapon.

But adding a BR soldier is not a bad thing, sometimes the BR soldier will help you. They will prioritize shooting enemies that pose a greater threat.

BR crew can hit enemies more accurately than SMG crew.

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it is 1+3=4 or 1 human MP40+3 bot MP40

which you can also get by picking the weapon from your first soldier.

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Oh oh, nothing has changed.

1+3 is obviously better for me. ONLY for me, not againsting some of you~

Even if you lose the battle with 4 mp40 using 1 ppsh, it has nothing to do with me

I noticed that this is very similar to a certain zombie hero from CRSED. He can summon 3 zombies with mp40.

Patch: I think it would still be difficult to do this with 1x 71 round drum magazine. maybe you have to reload

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idk what is difficult. if you get in cqc even if you have 9 bots you can kill them all with 71 bullets. problem is killing human player first, rest of the bots are easy.

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177

Good idea!

BTW I think they should be compared in similar squads

mp40+mp40+mp40+mp40+98k+98k+98k

ppsh+mosin+mosin+mosin+mosin+mosin+mosin

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Well yeah, you are controlling only 1mp40 at a time.
And the 3 AI’s using the mp40 wont really be a problem, which has been the point of entire discussion.

Probably not.

You do understand that in this game in squads mode you are controlling a squad ?
So you dont really have to use blackmagic to summon a zombie but rather just press a button to select next AI ?

No, killing bots really isnt difficult.

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Good. It’s hard to reason with unreasonable people.

If the impact of 1 weapon is really that big, it sounds like BR3 is unplayable against BR45. Then you should just lock each weapon in its cage

Yes. Then that is how balance works

What else do you want to prove through words, even if you can’t win, you are still talking about ppsh being invincible

This looks very skimpy

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I realize that even if you think that 4 MP40s cannot compete with 1 ppsh, there is no conflict with the proposed solution on this topic.

Since you can increase the number of MP40s here when you think that 4 MP40s cannot compete with 1 ppsh, and consider the number of squads, when increased to a critical value, PPSHS can no longer compete with more MP40s

x mp40 = y ppsh

Which is vanilla BR can’t deal with such balance

Why are you ignoring what’s going on?

Obviously mp40 and ppsh will be in the same room even in +1/-1 BR. And now you even come across 1 mp40 vs 4 ppsh!!!

Too much of this mess tells us that vanilla BR simply doesn’t work.

You may have your own ideas, and I think the solution described in the topic is better, you go to your post to make off-topic opinions, please don’t come here to ruin the discussion.

I keep emphasizing quantity, and you keep trying to make the final statement using words that do not correspond to reality. I’m really angry about these naughty players

Players come to this game for the fun stuff, don’t force your ideas on everyone. I think this is a basic truth

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New update is arived these few days.

Many naughty replys above seems to be more ridiculous now with what players actually suffering

Including but not limited to

  • A large number of players were unable to use their weapons in a fair fight with their opponents, as the BT and T70 showed up in Stalingrad with some ppd or semi-automatic rifles against the German infantry and tigers armed to the teeth

  • Soviet paratroopers entered the 1BR room carrying Level 1 weapons and pulled out powerful DT machine guns and 100 mm Doomsday anti-tank weapons from the parabox

  • BR3, 4, and 5 are as chaotic as expected, since most players don’t have enough weapons to against enermy

Using one weapon for MM is destructive, and it doesn’t take into account the majority of players’ weapon situations.

The current BR cannot organize a claimed fair fight.

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185

Yep! the current system is BS for everything besides BR2…

I was warning people about this since mid October but nobody cared:

i also had suggested a weighted average BR system with anti cheese protection but no, “abuse”

i sadly don’t see Enlisted changing tis toxic mess of a “best equpped weapon = your BR” BR system, so at least, please balance this one right. Here is a list of suggestions:

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186

The solution its updated to fit current existed BR ~

here

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idk what is ridiculous… all players here were against 2 queue MM