How exactly? 20+ people can easily totally change outcome of average poll on this forum.
these suggestions and their polls each have around 50 to 100 voters while before polls 30 likes were ground breaking. Bigger sample size → more accurate data on opinions.
You need more than 20 to push something controversial like 15cm SIG uptier now.
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I wiould cut the mg out and weld turret in place to get better armor and shell values. That excuse is such a bullshit reason. It’s a cherry on top but has little to no importance when it comes down to it. I can easily play a full game without using a tank mg and can easily use the stugs effectively with no turret. The ONLY viable reason to downtier stugs is to remove all HE shells. Otherwise there is no reason to use a normal tank of a tank destroyer/stug. They should be implemented as tank hunters for this to make any sense.
La7 isn’t that great. Germany has comparable 109s and fiat. Ki-100 is better plane and is two tiers lower. Doesnt have big bombs, and is not a significant threat at all. Germany also has the 109z that will shread it to pieces
The fact it was controversial to begin with shows how strong the german bias is among players. It can 1 hit a super pershing and is2 frontally. No turret and mg doesn’t work here in the slightest for it being br2. Such a joke
Alecto is still BR2, no one is bothered by that 
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It’s a turd on wheels in comparison. The heat rounds absolutely suck. Plus ya know…open top, no mg, no turret
Lol
thats not even the biggest issue with 15cm sig though.
Open top and paper armour is.
I tried 15cm sig the first time I unlocked it than revert back to Panzer IV F1 because slower reload for bigger bomma with all the downsides is simply not worth it.
But anyway, you made a fool of yourself.
ironic that the same disadvantages dont matter for you on Axis vehicles.
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Stug is way more viable than alecto. There’s no argument there.
And its does matter or else I’d say the sturm should be br4 with that kind of fire power
Brs should be set in accordance to enemy tank comparisons and not your own
GG.
lets compare 15cm sig than.
most comparable vehicle in game: Alecto (BR2)
better tanks in similar roles: KV-2, M4A3 (105), Chi-Ha short gun… All BR3.
enclosed, machine gun, turret, KV-2 and M4A3 are well armoured too.
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Dregoz even made a post detailing all of his weaknesses so that he would stay in BR 2
And yet fail to kill a single tank from the USSR above BR 2.
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Whats ridiculous about those suggestions exactly?
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Agree with this, rather disappointing those were the only changes this update especially after the poll system was introduced. I think suggestions with 60+ percent approval could also be implemented, but as more of a trial change instead of a permanent one since the votes are a bit more divided, lasting the duration of one major update to test how the change affects balance. If there aren’t any problems, it stays, but if it’s too strong, it gets moved back. Here’s all of the ones with 60+ percent that you didn’t already list.
SIG 150mm to BR3 (61% approval)
Luftfaust to BR2 (69% approval)
MP 717r to BR4 (64% approval)
Tiger E to BR4 (62% approval)
Breda 88 to BR1 (73% approval)
And here’s two others with over 75% approval that weren’t included in your list
J2M3 to either BR3 or 4 (94% approval, 48% for BR4 and 36% for BR3)
Both Ki-61s to BR3 (89% approval)
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I didnt include the first one because its confusing, while I accidently skipped/overlooked the second one. A honest mistake really.
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Hm, I can imagine it being smart to focus on the Soviet vs Japs content before getting the hand dirty with those other balance changes - but you guys are right that most of them are very obviously good suggestions that dont take much effort to implement.
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Developers already said to forum: VOTES AND LIKES DO NOTHING.
Even if there was 100 voted yes but developers say no - it will not be done.
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Weird, since on average I have seen polls to have ±40 people participating. Definitely not 100. Unless its some official news poll.
Opinions that are usually not backed up by arguments. And very often they are not discussed at all.
Since polls introduction, I have somehow lost interest in forums. People tend to attach more importance to these polls than they actually deserve.
It’s not really about that suggestions with high positive polls ratio should be implemented. More like about suggestions with negative polls ratio not to be even forwarded to devs. That’s all.
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Holy cope
Depends really.
For example the silenced ppsh which was NOT added to tech tree because people went ballistic over it being a fake gun.
But then depsite the wishes of 80% of the players, devs ended up adding it anyway as a premium a few months later.
So its true that devs can do anything they want but player opinions obviously matter to them even if they only care as long as its convinient for them.
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