This has been happening for a while but now it’s finally official
Su-9 is post-war/Cold War.
In the latest news thread it was mentioned that
So we can keep all types of players happy, everyone can play what they want (fantasy/more realistic/Cold War/Operation Unbthinkable/WW2 in 1946/actual WW2, etc.).
Option 1.
Create BR6 “Operation Unthinkable” with a ±0 MM rule and put all the prototypes, paper tanks and cold war stuff there.
You can even matchmake any faction with any faction on any map (like some players always wanted), for example Germany vs Japan at Stalingrad.
But ±0 MM means that BRs 1-5 stay strictly WW2.
Option 2.
Make BR5 this “hAha FUn” ±0 BR, and separate it from BRs 1-4, while moving all the actual WW2 stuff down to BR4.
Important: if StG-44/Tiger 2/etc. cannot be nerfed and simply must have counterparts in the form of Hyde/Ho-Ri, they can go the new separated BR category.
The separating line proposed is “was it a real thing on the ground in WW2?”
Obviously, the new jets would go to that new BR.
Approximate new ±0 BR separations (not finalized, I’m not an expert on every single gun):
So if we strike those weapons because imaginary counter part then can we strike the PPSH and other high capacity mag smgs aswell because germany does not get those?
Well I dont mind but not that restrictive feodorov can be turned to BR II LMG with nerfs for an instance cuz really its WW 1 weapon.
For Japan Tokyo Arsenal is before WW 2 so no problem with it being there. Te-4 MG can stay also and Na-To and Chi-To. So make the line straight for Japan and we move the paratroopers to BR V where they belong…
I disagree because my standard is that all that matters is that something was produced, prototyped, developed, or designed during and for the war. The Stg 45 was designed for the war, the T28 was designed for the war,
When world of tanks implemented the cold war and modern combat you had to enter a separate garage and matchmaking queue. Early cold war may have some overlap in equipment like Sherman’s and pphs 41s but if they had a separate que that means some people can’t bring a nearly all br 1 load out to the cold war by having 1 cold war item. This way each era has it’s own identity.
It looked like this Tokyo Arsenal 1928 it was firing 2 round brusts but they fixed it for the second trial it worked but got rejected by the army. 1927 worked fine but Japan never would have adopted it to doctrine they like slow fire weapons and to save ammo only at late war they changed their opinion.
None of this weapons where adopted neither Tokyo Arsenal 1927 or 28. 28 was drum mag and Japan only experimented with drum magazines but didn’t adopted such for infantry. They preferred stick magazines. But the weapons are WW 2 technology for sure its not like AK…
but i am to pretty much the reasoning, the selection and everything else.
to explain it, i am interested into enlisted kinda being the trilogy as war thunder begun.
starting to ww2, and go further through out the cold era up to modern days.
( and no. i’m " sorry " but the korean war, vietnam or other maxy / small proxy wars do not count as it barely involved most factions. ).
however in enlisted case, we are having this conversation way sooner than actually needed.
because first, we still lack much of world war two content, maps and yada yada yada. ( just to name “few”, italian campaign, more leningrad stuff, more stalingrad maps, manchuria or anything related to japan vs ussr. operation market garden, more north african locations, and many, many more. or, most halftracks / apcs / ground vehicles such as armored cars from each nation.
and second, we lack a base for cold war stuff. uniforms, more “modern” weapons that were made past ww2, actual maps that aren’t ww2 ones with tigers dead wrecks etc.
i’m sorry. but if you think what we have is " good enough " to be a base in the cold war era, you’re just wrong. you aren’t really thinking it through.
I can fairly confidentally say they aint going back to campaigns we had or restrict the current squad version.
Generally devs seems to be just as clueless as everyone else where the game is evolving.
How they update the game kinda points out how they are just as clueless as everyone else.
Anyway, id say best option would be to request comp mode / what ever customizing tool to grant people option to limit what ever they want.
this is a ww2 game with prototypes, or outright non existant vehicles being made available to everyone because of balance.
take it or leave it as they say.
if anything, you should actually be grateful since they appear to sustain the game you actually want.
( well… sustain it’s a bit of a strench given that we don’t know the monetary finances of DF. and given last update, delays and content… perhaps very troubled but )
but ideally, more people pay for whatever they kinda want without many restrictios. and allows for more ww2 ( and non ) content to appear in the game.
man…
we kinda have requested from ages…
both clans, and custom games enjoyer.
i presume it doesn’t involve monteray gainings… hence why we still haven’t got a damn thing.
Well, Enlisted only two main advantages are gun variety (ignoring their stats and sound quickly) and the bots (and well, we know how good that one is).
Everything else is mediocre to worse than what the competition offers plus minus personal taste.
Taking away gun variety because some tankie nerd has nothing better to do than larping WW2, just makes the game weaker to the point at least I see no point in playing it if other games have about the same gun variety, but dont have so godawful broken gun gameplays. Even indie studios like Easy Red 2 has better AI at this point.
ik, but imo seems to be the best option, it wont change the current squad version of the game.
Unlike creating new BR’s and restrictions which most likely wont happen.
and we move the paratroopers to BR V where they belong…
