alot time…
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BR4 is well balanced against BR3. The weapons are only slightly better, and the tanks can be killed by BR3 anti-tank. Planes can also be defeated by pilot skills / aa guns, and broken stuff like the AP-4C is now in BR5
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IMO the biggest problem with BR4 that by far the smallest gap in power between BRs are between BR3-4 while BR4-5 has the biggest powergap in the game, making BR4 very unpopular.
Giving BR4 very strong assaulter weapons does seem to help BR4, since Axis BR4 got more popular with Király 39M but the ultimate solution is indeed walling BR5 off, not only due to power difference but also because half of BR5 are just prototype weapons.
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Personally I’d make BR6 as historical-fantasy and put all protos there. BR5 still has some very iconic ww2 stuff in it, it would be a big shame to put it in the same category.
(Although I guess moving all ww2 stuff from BR5 to BR4 is also a solution?)
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I don’t like the idea of creating more BRs as long as we don’t have ±0 BR MM yet.
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Creating a BR VI for those Prototypes would be the best No exceptions obviously
sounds good, doesnt work.
most of those prototypes were added to balance real weapons such as the FG42, M2 carbine or StG44.
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Prototypes are across all BRs and I don’t see any problem with it.
I really don’t get this religious dogmatic pushes against prototypes. All of them are part of history. 
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Those weapons could have been nerfed though. There is nothing stopping this from happening other than powercreep. The same powercreep that now makes BR4 “useless”.
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they could have been, but DF being DF… well they had no idea how to balance things and Gaijin seems to be even worse.
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I didnt either until they were limited in numbers to a degree, but its getting annoying to see tech tree prototype weapons out perform iconic WW2 guns.
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Yep, we definitely need to do either or:
It sucks majorly to dare to equip a single (G-43/Panther/other iconic WW2 stuff) and instantly get sent to 1950s al-history SU-9/AS/RD wonderland.
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It’s called power creep, it has nothing to do with gun being historically limited or iconic.
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Yes, it is something that is reasonable and even urgent. I have mentioned it several times already. Separate BR5. Such a small modification can lead to a significant improvement in the environment.
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The atomic bomb was a part of history. Should we give USA an atom bomb and then give it to all other factions “cause muh balanz”?
Germans were researching atomic weapons. The Soviets stole the technology later but we already have Su 9 and Japan had the bombs dropped on them so apparently that means they should get nukes too.
Prototypes should never have been in the game. An occasional event or premium I can deal with but not whole bloody BRs.
This fantasy crap has completely ruined Enlisted. I want a WWII game not vintage Fortnite.
And dont tell me to play something else but cause there isnt another game out there like Enlisted.
Why does everyone always want to take a WWII game and turn it into Battlefield V??
I strongly disagree ‘they are a part of history’. Most of these ‘prototypes’ were barely prototypes. They were designers sketches, wacky ideas in the middle of the night. Maybe one poorly constructed model was made and they gave up because it was a stupid idea that would never work.
If we take jets,I dont think anyone is denying there were jets in the late part of the Second World War.
However they were not very common. Indeed the Me262 wasnt designed for dogfighting it was a bomber escort. Likewise the Gloster Meteor was used more for intercepting V1 and V2s rather than going Top Gun against an Me262.
Either way jets were completely unnecessary and have ruined the game. See how every day now we have players rightly and desperately pleading that BR V be quarantined. It was bad enough before jets, now it’s even worse.
Thank you for your post.
I agree.
Even before jets and more and more prototypes, BR IV has always been this weird in between space.
The weapons are way underpowered against BR V. Yet in some cases are a bit OP for BR III.
Remember that BR II fights BR III as well.
Its difficult to balance like an M10 is as weak as a BR III tank but its gun is considerably more powerful.
If I recall correctly there are some Panthers in BR IV as well which would be unfair in BR III when Allies have basic Shermans.
For infantry weapons though as Ive said on other posts, we only have maybe 1-2 weapons in each faction. USA rightly lost the Johnson to BR III so now the only BR IV weapon is the M1941 Johnson LMG.
On the other hand the Kiraly is considerably more powerful than a standard BR III SMG, but if we put it in BR V why would you use a Kiraly when you can have an STG or FG42?
At present the best suggestion I could offer is quarantine BR V, get rid of BR IV and then carefully go through and asses each BR IV weapon/vehicle on its merits.
I think this solution would be especially helpful for Japan which should never have gone past BR III in the first place.
Indeed Japan is a tech tree where as others have suggested prototypes can largely be locked to BR V and actual WWII stuff kept BR I-III.
Both the FG and M2 are arguably not much better, of course, 7000 is better than 0 but still. Not mass-produced, real but rare.
Fedorov and AS-44 can go straight to 6
If the FGs go to 6 then I think the soviets won’t mind sending the AV’s up there as well
Hyde and Stg can also go up there (balancing)
MT and RD-44 definitely
Honestly the entire BR5 “meta” i can think of is rare/prototype, I don’t think anyone seriously would argue this unless they simply want to keep their FGs and AS-44s in 5 to dominate everyone else
The only faction that might have a problem with this is the Japanese, but honesly the amount of rice paper they have is crazy, no helping them anyways
Both. And the Tiger H1 as well. Added with the BR4 Kv-1 lol
Br4 contains my favourite ww2 stuff, for all factions (apart from iconic things stuck in br5 like the ppsh41or stg44…) it’s like the dream br, but it always face br5 and… it’s sad.
I love simple semi autos.
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One day…when we FINALLY get BR ±0
BR 4 will be perhaps my favourite (even now its close)
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