Disclaimer: I am aware that it’s highly unlikely if not impossible that any changes like this will ever happen, however, it doesn’t hurt to speculate how things could have been done right.
Fedorov Avtomat, even though rather genius for its time, was a rather flimsy, high maintenance and not very reliable weapon in the hands of an inexperienced conscript. In total about 3400 avtomats were manufactured.
Fedorov Avtomat was retired by the Red Army in 1928 together with all other weapons using any round other than the 7.62x54 R. Its last documented use was during the Winter war in 1939-40. As soon as other automatic weapons became available, it was instantly superceded.
Reportedly, about 882 of them were stored with the Moscow militia as of September 1941, but whether they were deployed is unknown.
The 6.5x50SR Arisaka round it used (purchased by the Russian Empire due to ammo and weapon shortages during WW1) was less powerful than the 7.62 rifle cartridge used by Mosin rifle, DP machine guns, etc.
It can be said that it was close to the intermediate cartridge concept which became popular by the end of WW2 and immediately after its end (with StG, AK, etc.).
However, even Fedorov himself recommended firing in bursts of 3-5 rounds and avoiding full automatic fire at a single target.
In Enlisted, this more realistic Fedorov Avtomat could play similarly to another automatic intermediate cartridge BR2 weapon – MKb 35. Reduced damage, increased recoil and dispersion, unreliable full auto magazine dumping.
In Enlisted, BR2 Fedorov would only appear in early war maps (where it at least had a theoretical chance to appear) when the Red Army used everything it could to defend, without it being spammed in Berlin (where assault rifle enjoyers would still be able to use the other BR5 assault rifle – AS-44, even though it was never adopted ot used at all in the first place).
In order to prevent players from running x3 assaulter squads with Fedorovs on BR2, it could have been either implemented as a gold order weapon (much like its possible counterpart – MKb 35 and in the quality of 4 to reflect its rarity) or be available only to guerilla class (to limit its quantity and reflect its real life use with militia rather than regular troops) and maybe the event Assault Engineers squad.
Personally I haven’t touched Fedorov Avtomat in Enlisted to this day and don’t intend to so far, since I really don’t like its proto-AK top tier gun representation, especially not in Berlin setting.
However, if it had been indeed implemented as a unique flimsy rattling WW1 weapon for defense of Moscow, I would be actually interested to give it a go.
I mean the historically accurate ship sailed(as much as I wish it didn’t) when they added the “we made it up” Ho-ri. Tho would be interesting to have an event where loadouts were “realistic”
Thanks, I did a fair amount of research and my final conclusion is that no burst fire mode existed, its a popular myth born by Russian nationalism. Its not about history but the prestige of being first in something which is why many claim that Fedorov Avtomat was the first assault rifle or that Fedorov rifles had burst fire mode, though there is no evidence of this.
Im honestly still contemplating on demanding or not demanding this route:
If DF really doesnt care about HA than why only punish one faction? Especially after Fedorov rifle was even buffed, its just stupidly unfair.
P.S: Im still waiting for the HA correction of Király SMGs, Beretta 38/42 and M1 Beretta…
how is this russian nationalism lol
the devs themselves wrote that they added the burst mode because they found some information on it being used “in bursts”
even if there was historical evidence for this I would like to see where you found people bragging about how good russia is becasue they had a bust mode on one of their prototype rifles, otherwise this is not nationalism
I heard it was never used in full auto because of reliability issues, so maybe turn it into a BR2 early semi auto which the Soviet desperately need anyways.
I mean I consider things that could reasonably have been near the front to be fine. E.g. Normandy Jumbo, but like I do have an issue with them just “we made the entire weapon up lol” or “have this napkinwaffe prototype that never worked irl”
