Body Armour should be purely cosmetic, remove the 10% damage reduction from it

[Mortarion_Death]

@VoyoMayPL

No, remove EVERYTHING. No exceptions.

and what about the premium squad? will you personally return the money to me?

[VoyoMayPL]

That’s why I think they won’t remove it but add more.
Still I think they should remove it all.

[VoyoMayPL]

@SmallebigE-live

Doing to same to helmets somehow lead to more micro transactions for body armor?

Completely wrong. Try reading again as you totally don’t understand what I wrote.

[Adamnpee]

In that case weapon upgrades, soldier tiers and vitality should be removed as well.

Because how is it balanced when mixmaxers will face a full team of clueless casuals?

There’s so much room for potential imbalance in this game.

And literally the only people who care about body armor gimmicks are minmaxers, meanwhile the vast majority of people don’t even know that such a thing exists. That’s how this “issue” is influential to overall balance.

And I bet if it weren’t for the data miners actually providing accurate numbers and stats, basically no one would pay attention if their smg with 600 to 1000 rof kills the enemy on 2 or 3 hits.

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But I guess we simply can’t have any kind of minor flavor in this game. Everything needs to be dull, blunt and mainly 1:1.

[VoyoMayPL]

@Adamnpee

meanwhile the vast majority of people don’t even know that such a thing exists. That’s how this “issue” is influential to overall balance.

And I bet if it weren’t for the data miners actually providing accurate numbers and stats, basically no one would pay attention if their smg with 600 to 1000 rof kills the enemy on 2 or 3 hits.

Then we should bring back randomised recoil values? Untill Devs made a post about removing it, nobody knew it was a thing.

Improving the recoil calculation formula

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Also, what’s the point of a “flavour” mechanic if nobody but minmaxers know about it?

[Adamnpee]

@VoyoMayPL

Then we should bring back randomised recoil values?

I did not care back then, nor do I care now.

@Adamnpee

@EVA_Gladitor

Yo, an infantry buff? From Darkflow? I didn’t think it was possible.

Only if you had problems to control recoil up until now. Which would be truly hilarious, since so many people didn’t even notice something like this:

@_Movmav

impossible to get used to your favorite gun, because the recoil pattern changes with each battle.

…was a thing.

[VoyoMayPL]

Fair

[Adamnpee]

@VoyoMayPL

Also, what’s the point of a “flavour” mechanic if nobody but minmaxers know about it?

This is true. This the only thing I would change. For every outfit that offers some bonuses, I would list those bonuses right next to them. So everyone can see them without digging through some data mined sheets.

And I would add other bonuses to other outfits. Like a bonus to reload speed, bonus to ammo supply, bonus to running, etc.
But only to torsos.

It would be nice to have another way to customize the soldier.

[VoyoMayPL]

I guess I’m ok with such idea. Certainly better than some hidden BS modifiers for one nation only
But it still feels very sealclubby.

[Adamnpee]

@VoyoMayPL

But it still feels very sealclubby.

Basically everything in this game is. Prime example is tier 4 BR2 M1A1 Thompson.

[VoyoMayPL]

This doesn’t mean we should add more.
Personally I’d add BR even to perks (and your outfits with modifiers).

[Jade_Stern]

Yes, but the firing rate of AVS36 must reach 800 and stop adding better submachine guns for Germany, because without bulletproof vests, they only need 2 shots to kill Soviet people.

Someone has strengthened FG42 with the excuse of ‘the Soviet Union has bulletproof vests’, and now they are requesting to remove the effectiveness of the bulletproof vest.Shameless guy.

The balance in the mouths of hypocrites is only to strengthen their camp.

[Adamnpee]

I think it is so minor or other thing that are already present in the game, it effectively plays no role.

[VoyoMayPL]

So add a problem because we have bigger problems? I’d rather not add one and fix already existing (or at least try).

[Adamnpee]

Well, I don’t think it is problem in the first place. Otherwise I would be screaming to not allow high tier soldiers to enter low BR matches.

But I guess it is very subjective.

[iso_seppo123]

@EVA_Evo

Additionally, refund all tickets spent on them. If a person has paid for 25 body armour vests, put 25x6 (or whatever the cost is) tickets into their inventory.

I doubt this will happen. People didnt get refunds when wp and impact nades were nerfed to obscurity

[CaptainSebekel]

Well, for a start, it does not stop at affecting SF rifle performance.

@Jade Stern

Someone has strengthened FG42 with the excuse of ‘the Soviet Union has bulletproof vests’,

As far as I am concerned, this was not stated by the devs and it is also worth noting that Germany is not only fighting Russia.

@Jade Stern

hypocrites

I also remember that some people kept talking about asymmetrical balance so I dont know why having a slightly better SF rifle is OP now, especially if the other side has better SMGs, better ARs and arguably better MGs at least at BR5 while the other side “only” has better tanks.

[Kilroy_was_HERE]

How pathetic

[Naohmcete]

just add for everyone and goody bye, reminder they are in the files and japs already have it on their PREMIUM biker squad (shame for them)

[GeneralBrus]

@VoyoMayPL

No, remove EVERYTHING. No exceptions. If we start making exceptions it will all repeat after some time.

Then extra Vitality of paratroopers should also be removed - as it has the same effect of body armor