What other shortcomings does Germany’s BR 3 bracket have?

Yeah, over the past few years they’ve tweaked quite a few things: improved the handling of the G41, lowered the BR of the rocket-equipped Fw 190 to BR 3, buffed the MP35/1, and added the Kugelblitz. Even so, it still feels like several key pieces of the roster are missing.
Let me lay out what I think would be the ideal German BR 3 lineup.

  1. Three cyclable assault squads armed with MP41(r), captured SVT rifles and MG34 machine guns
  2. Machine gun squad equipped with saddle-drum MG13 and captured Polish Browning machine guns
  3. Two APCs: the Sd.Kfz. 251/1 and Sd.Kfz. 251/9
  4. One paratrooper squad and one messenger squad armed with Walther pistols
  5. Panzer IV Command J (with track armor), premium Italian Panzer III N, and the Kugelblitz anti-aircraft vehicle
  6. Bf 110 G-2 and Fw 190, both carrying four rockets for BR 3
  • Certain parts of Germany’s BR 3 lineup still need refinement and adjustments.
  • German BR 3 is already balanced and powerful enough with no further buffs required.
  • We should shift our focus to Germany’s BR 2 bracket instead.
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With this roster, Germany’s BR 3 lineup would be fully complete.
We’d no longer need to fear Soviet plate armor squads or devastating Allied bombing runs.
The idea sounds perfect, but the reality is harsh. Only big spenders or extremely lucky players can get all of this. You’d have to exchange every old blue card for MP41(r)s and pull tons of rare gear from crates.

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At present, neither the Nashorn tank destroyer nor the Bf 110 has been downrated to BR 3,

and there is no news that the G43 or ZH-29 will be moved to BR 3 either.

The vehicle-mounted machine guns on the Sd.Kfz. 251/1 and Sd.Kfz. 251/9 use magazine feeding instead of historically accurate belt feeds

; they have too few rounds and overheat far too quickly, making them unpleasant to use. The tech-tree Panzer IVs also do not have full access to spare track armor for free like they do in War Thunder, leaving them lacking survivability, and this track armor is far more crucial for them than vehicles of other nations.

Also, the StuG III G still doesn’t come with a roof-mounted machine gun for its crew.
All in all, German BR 3 still has many flaws and lacks overall balance.
Even if some of our forum suggestions may not be entirely reasonable, such as nerfing the 105 mm armed M4A3 Sherman, we should still submit our feedback to the DF dev team to make them aware of players’ thoughts. Adjustments can be made in other areas instead.
Aside from heavy infantry plate armor, there are plenty of other mechanics and vehicles that could be improved.

I’m glad my suggestions actually made a difference.

There’s some good news, actually.
Two player suggestions have been approved but not yet implemented.
The first is faster reload for the G41,

and the second is rebalancing the ammunition for the Panzer III N.

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Well, here’s my Br 3 German lineup


My “Captured Arms” / Russian squad armed with MP-41rs and a PPSH-41, these guys are the Brr squad


My other faster firing squad. Consider them the backup when my main squad dies.


My medic squad, equipped with more damage dealing weapons and built for more mobile warfare with my MG guy equipped with a KE-7(wish I gotten the “bar” for him instead"


My assault engineers, nothing much to say except I still need 1 more Mkb.42 with 15 rounds or Mkb.35/III to complete it.


My partisan squad to deal with grey zone campers and rallies



My main panzer squads I use for every occasion, mainly the armored one.


I use my Stug when I want to be a annoying little german and stay farther back in the line. And to be a certified stuger.

And to be honest, I’m not a huge fan of giving every army the same thing. Like you say in the post, You see evry german assault squad equipped with the MP-41(r), which is the best Br 3 smg for Germany, bit it gets dual after a while. I believe that having a squad equipped with a certain thing, like my main squad being a “Captured arm” squad would bring much varieties in battles. But that’s just me

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I wish i will still be alive to experience that update

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VG 1-5 instead of other semi-auto rifles because even with 15 ish damage semi-auto rifles, would struggles to one hit down body armor + 35% vitality perk at range and VG 1-5 is a solid gun if you don’t mind clicking your mouse a lot.

MP-41(R) is very nice but realistically speaking you wouldn’t get enough of them to equip more than 1 assaulter squad. Other solid choices on BR 3 would be that Browning wz. 1928 premium squad and 9 men rifleman squads that are fully equipped with VG 1-5.

Alternatively you could run assaulter squads with MP 35/I which is pretty okay since the damage buff. You would still struggles against body armor spams as you would still needs 3 body shots to down one but against USA it’s a solid choice. The reason why i don’t recommend MGs such as MG 34 and MG 13 with 75 rnds mag is that they slows you down sooo much that, you wouldn’t have much problem against bad-average players but against actual good players with good response time it is utterly useless and will have a hard time to keep up against them using SMG and the other type of guns with good mobility and ADS.

Practically speaking you would only need 1 APC squad. Preferable Sd.Kfz. 251/9 i guess.

I wouldn’t use any paratroopers at all as paradropping takes too much time to touch the ground and there’s a potential risk that the enemy fighter/AA shoots the transport airplane down and against good players your paratroopers will all helplessly gets shot while in mid air, ended up wasting a lots of precious time that otherwise you would have made differences on the ground by playing infantry.

As for the tanks, you can’t expect any vehicle with proper protection on BR 3 as germany. So, in my opinion what you should focus is the sheer firepower instead. Sturmpanzer 2 with sIG 33 15cm gun reloads extremely fast for 15 cm gun and when left unchecked, it could cause a massive damage to the enemy team and Flakbus with 88mm is also a very good choice as well. I will recommend using Panzer 3 N when it’s utterly useless APCBC shells all replaced by HEAT until then, i cannot recommend using it. I mean, it’s not terrible i guess but compared to something like 105mm Sherman it is just lacking.

The airplanes are… whatever. I cannot think of any particularly good airplane on BR 3. Just use whatever you think it’s good i guess.

Overall, you are kinda cooked without prem/event stuff on BR 3. :joy:

BR3 is the best BR! Yesterday me autism got itchy and made me spend customizations tickets just to change my entire german faction squad drip.

For my squad layout, i standardized it for all of my faction.

1 Paratrooper Squad
3 Spawn Trucks
2 MG Squads
1 Light Bomber Plane
2 Tanks
1 Engineer Squad
1 Flame Trooper Squad
1 Anti Air Tanks

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German BR3 is working quite well, its just KV1 having 50% more effective armor than it has on paper, SVT38 being a BR4 semi disguised as a BR3 rifle, Germany having no rocket planes in BR3 and of course Soviet body armor ruining it all.

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