I would like to downgrade the German rifle G43 to level 3

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I would like to downgrade the German rifle G43 to level 3.
At present, all four factions
Only Germany and Japan have level 3. The loading speed of the rifle is slow.
If the G43 is lowered to level 3 Then, semi-automatic rifles with enhanced German-grade 3 environmental protection features can be developed.

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I would rather have svt 38 nerfed with stripper clip reload to match other nations br 3 rifles

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Bingo, I was going to say the same thing but you beat me to it. The G41 would be fine if the SVT 38 had stripper clips

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The game shouldn’t be balanced around weapons that are obviously overperforming, the same reason why people using the Xa-38 as an excuse to move certain planes down is tupid.

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I would add tho, with the current power level of BR2 and BR3 SMGs, I could see guns like G41 moving to BR2 and G43 and other mag reload rifles move to BR3.

Not that I am actually asking for this, rather my point is that some meta SMGs are vastly overperforming in low/mid BR compared to rifles.

One PPS43 is worth 3 G41 in firepower.

BR2 Thompson, Mas38, BR2 MP35, PPS43 and other rapid fire SMGs are so much better than all bolt actions and mid power semi autos, that before talking about rifle balance we should fix SMG meta first.

Grease Gun, MP40, FNAB - those are BR2 SMGs, slow dps in order to give rifles a chance to fire back.
Everything above 700 rpm should move to BR3 or BR4.

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The FNAB if the Dev’s are not going to buff it needs to be dropped to BR1.

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I would rather see G41 deal more damage than pathetic 14.4 considering slow reload. Buff it to 16 upgraded and leave it at its current reload.

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That won’t actually solve the two-shot problem against cuirasses.

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I wouldn’t mind… but the damage probably should get lowered to normalize with other factions if so.

(Yes I know, Soviets have body armour crutches. But a problem shouldn’t be the justification to create another one)

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Look, any damage above 14 units is a guaranteed one-shot. And while other nations have enough to pull it off, the Germans don’t have enough to one-shot cuirasses. For the US this isn’t an issue, since 14+ damage kills them anyway. But honestly, for balance it would just be better to remove the body armor altogether.

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Yes it’s what I said. Armour is a problem, but shouldn’t be the justification for another one…

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Actually, this wouldn’t create any imbalance, because damage above 13.5 is lethal - but hey, you know better. I’d go even further and rebalance the semi-auto rifles in the tech tree entirely. At BR 3, you could move all rifles down to 10-round magazines while keeping their characteristics. Then at BR 4, introduce semi-auto rifles with 15–20 round magazines and damage of 15.3–16.0. At the same time, you could lower the damage of automatic rifles to 13.2 (like current machine guns), and raise machine gun damage to 16 units. The reasoning is that machine guns generally have longer barrels. And for semi-autos, we’ll just go with the convention that semi-automatic fire uses less powder energy.

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That’s why body armour damage reduction needs to get removed completely

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I agree one thousand percent. We’ve been saying this for two years now, though, and nothing’s changed. The only encouraging thing is that the developers acknowledged they’re giving a bonus advantage. Acknowledgment is the first step toward fixing it.

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You need 15 damage to one hit down Soviets with armor + vitality

also Paratroopers and Flamers need 15 damage to get downed in one shot aswell, since those get additional vitality bonus.

→ also Soviets can actually get Flamers with bonus vitality AND armor resulting in something like 17 effective HP.

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Totally agree on the fundamentals — but I still think damage should be balanced around the regular classes. Unfortunately, flamethrower units and paratroopers have been nerfed into the ground and are pretty much useless.

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YES! we need a equalizer rifle for against soviets svt38 and the american m1 garand

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VG1-5 is actually amazing.

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50/50
It’ll do, but it’s weaker than one-shot rifles. Still, there’s no other choice.

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tru its good but not good enough against svt38 and a m1 garand

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