It does have very different gameplay to it - basically plays like a weak MKB if you can spam the fire button fast enough - its definitely not accurate enough to function as a good snappy high damage rifle, but It wipes squads fast in close to medium range.
I really love that gun, almost so much that it makes me forget how pathetic G41 is.
Agreed, however it looks like the Dev’s have ZERO intentions of balancing things out by removing the body armor, even though their is more then enough evidence that most players don’t like it. I’ve said for a long time, give it to all factions, or give it to no factions, it’s just dumb to only offer it to one when every faction in WW2 had it. Of course, the Dev’s gave the Soviets the ONLY paratrooper premium squad with interchangeable weapons, so clearly balance is not part of their agenda.
Better solution is do a major update focused around Semi auto rifles, every faction would get one. Germany gets a Mag reload BR III after G41, Soviets get a 10 round stripper reload BEFORE the SVT-38 in BR III, Allies get a BR IV semi auto, and Japan gets a semi auto in BR IV.
Allies and Japan don’t have a semi auto in BR IV, or any BR IV rifle period. This solves this issue, Germany having a mag reload and Soviets getting Stripper reload solves a balancing issue providing both factions with stripper reload first in BR III followed by the next mag reload BR III following on the next development item.
SOV has a special low production and experimental variant of the SKS-31 that holds 10 rounds and is stripper fed, Germany has many options for mag reload, Allies have good BR IV options to pick from too, and the Japan getting the Type 5.
All rifles would hold 10 rounds in BR III, and BR IV 10 or 15 depending on available options and balance.
Body armor don’t need to be removed it just needs to become a statless cosmetic only. They shouldn’t be the only faction to have body armor as it’s negative debuffs are obviously always ignored and people only look at its buff.
So to solve the whole issue remove any bonus for buff and debuff that body armor has and make it strictly and only cosmetic.
if i just spam it on every post possible eventually they will listen… it’s like a child when they don’t get something they want
Speaking of G41, 4.8 second reload I get it’s stripper fed but it’s got a EXTREMELY long and unnecessary reload for what it is.
G41 reload from 4.8/s > 3.9/s this keeps a longer reload due to stripper clips but make it so the weapon is more usable and still viable.
The funniest thing is that even if you gave cuirass equivalents to everyone, it still wouldn’t give Germany and Japan any advantage. There’s research on this topic on the Russian forum — here’s the link, you can read it with a translator.
The funniest thing is… is that when body armor inevitably gets removed the people who whine about it will just find another thing to cling to… such as HE spam.
I’m fed up with the Soviet Union’s overuse of cuirass armor. Every time I participate in a Tier 3 Axis battle, the entire opposing team wears cuirass armor and sticks together, so four or five Axis players just quit the game. It’s not about winning or losing, it’s about whether we can continue to fight fairly within the limits allowed by the game mechanics.
Why? This is a post discussing the G43, not a post about bulletproof vests. Why does every topic being discussed always end up being redirected to bulletproof vests???
Even if it’s not the G43, it should be a substitute for semi-automatic rifles with similar functions.
Rather than bulletproof vests - this has digressed from the topic.
The overuse of the Soviet breastplate by Soviet players rendered the German Tier 3 semi-automatic rifle ineffective, which is why we need to move the G43 to Tier 3. Without this issue, no changes are needed; the Soviet breastplate is the root of the problem.
HE spam and body armour have one major difference one needs to include. HE spam is something everyone suffers and can do, body armour is not. One is a part of the game for everyone, the other gives one faction an advantage none other can access.
Because it is a problem when discussing either Soviet or German equipment that should be included in the discussion. As long as it exists it has to be included in discussions affecting the Soviets to get a full picture of the situation.
I do agree vests seem to get brought up more then they should, a issue that should be solved a long time ago though. It’s not enough of a argument on its own for the G43 to get down tiered. Your basically putting a bandaid on a gaping injury and ignoring it thinking it’s good now.
What I’m saying is moving the G43 to BR III solves almost nothing If anything at all. Better solution would be add a mag fed semi auto in BR III for the Germans after the G41 and change body armor to be cosmetic only. That’s the only time you’re going to be able to solve an issue like this.
I said that we could have a separate post for bulletproof vests, right?
The thing you mentioned - I’m not sure what it is - a level 3 semi-automatic rifle - could also be included. But it’s not clear when this can be achieved. It seems rather vague. The most feasible option at present is to add a third level to G43.
After all, there is still ZH29 at level 4.
What a heated poll, still no conclusion so far. Are players simply reluctant to see the G-41 get nerfed?
Here’s the thing: if the G-43 gets downtiered, how should we balance all those semi-auto rifles with a 4-second reload, including the Walther, Mauser G/41 and Pavesi? Should we just buff their damage by one point?
I reckon this is exactly the root of the whole dilemma.
The problem is that some top BR2 SMGs are better than most BR4 semi autos - and as such one might come to the conclusion that those BR4 semi autos should get lowered to BR3.
But what then happens to those BR3 semis? Do they get moved to BR2?
BR2 isnt really supposed to have semis to begin with - with some very poor semis as an exception.
Bolt action rifles need some safe space from semi auto rifles.
So radically reverting BR2 SMG powercreep together with nerfing top BR3 SMGs like PPSH41 and ZK-383 a bit would be the real solution here.
After that the BR3 and BR4 semi auto rifle situation we are having right now would be almost ideal.
they dont want any contender to their beloved svt38 or m1 garand
The SVT-38 needs to be nerfed but 10 round mag reloads should not be TT BR3 rifles.
Every nation has its own unique traits, just like the Tiger II stands out as the top performer at BR5.
The proposal to buff the G41 has been approved. We could increase its damage and reload speed (taking the Mondragón as a reference) while lowering the damage of the G-43, so the two rifles can have distinct traits. Stop fixating on the Soviet SVT. The G-41 was indeed modeled after the SVT, and it failed purely due to flawed design specifications. It wasn’t until the G-43 that the design finally worked out, wasn’t it?
On BR4, the ZH-29 is far superior overall, and the G-43 simply cannot compete. This game has always streamlined complicated mechanics, so there is no need to bring back cumbersome features that ruin the gameplay. This change can also keep the G-43 viable.
If we add the tray-based magazine loading mechanic to the SVT, where do we draw the line? Will we then introduce other historical quirks? For instance, forcing players to replace and lubricate barrels for MG series and Japanese machine guns after every 50 rounds due to overheating, or adding repeated barrel swaps and extra charging strokes for general-purpose machine guns? Fully implementing all these tedious operations would only make the game worse.
At the end of the day, are people just reluctant to see those weapons with tray loading become obsolete? Besides the G-41, there are two squad-exclusive high-tier weapons and two BP weapons — four guns in total that use this loading method. Are folks afraid they will become completely useless?