no, the order was 20 000 rifles every month.
Dont know what you are confusing those numbers with, but you are definitely off the mark here.
Ok but who says any at all were produced during WW2?
If so, how many?
It’s got all of the worst factors imagienable for accurately determining wether 30 rounders existed during WW2 or not.
I just remembered that I recently did an hours research in the past got me a firm “maybe…? Possibly…?”.
Anyway, this isn’t the point of the discussion, my bad. All this is to say… Gun Jesus is not the final authroity of firearms history. He summerizes from available material to him, often provided by the people he visited when making that video, and those materials can at times be incorrect.
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Most people check his videos to see him take apart the gun and assemble it again. He is probably one of the best in this regard based on how many guns he had seen and took apart in his life.
However he never really focused on historical details like production numbers, deployment history etc. He is a surprisingly bad source in that.
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see:
Do you own them? Did you find how many were made during WW2?
I have no need to look into them since the site already gives production number.
Production number including after WW2. Which can technically be 0 during WW2 and all after WW2.
“well boys the war is over, lets build 7000 rifles than stop producing rifles altogether”
Clearly not the case, its obvious that production was shut down with the end of the war and only the half finished rifles were completed afterwards.
Or it can be the other way round:
“Sacre bleu, the factory is ruined, all the workers are hungry, the Germans stole all the pencils, enginner Jan-Jaques is on the front with Free French, let’s try to make at least 1 rifle this month and 2 next month”
Then, after the war is over “Ok now everyone is here and safe, now we can make as many as we want”.
In any case, evidently no one knows how many (if any) were made during WW2.
except, they didnt need rifles after the war, which is backed by the fact that production was shut down soon after.
probably, I bet that the production number is based on serial numbers too.
wait the lee is a semi auto and not a bolt action crazy me i thought it was the other way, if the garand moves to br4 it has to be as good not worse than the g43 or zh29
it has more ammo since you are so concerned about two (2) rounds on SA rifle.
There is already gayrand with GL in BR4 so you can wipe off those tears.
The weapon was used in Indochina, not World War II according to Ian McCollum of Forgotten Weapons (see 16:49 in the video). The Indochina conflict began in December of 1946 as a result of other conflict and tension in the reason, which is the more likely reason for an urgent manufacturing of 6200 rifles.
Edit: I missed the discussion above regarding Gun Jesus specifically, I should have done so and included that in my synopsis. Sorry about that. I’ll repeat what others have said and take his info with a grain of salt.
Gun Jesus is mid.
Use an actual book : Proud Promise: French Autoloading Rifles, 1898-1979 0889351864 9780889351868 : Jean Huon : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive
Seems some MAS 40 were out there, but no MAS 44
BR III would be better imo.
BR II could be the MAS 18-21, MAT 26 or the RSC rifle.
Thanks for sharing, but we already discussed the issues with the claim so I will only give a quick recap.
The book only claims that no rifle was made before the end of the war in Europe, that was in May 1945.
The war still went on for almost 4 months.
But then again, its easier to explain that a rifle was not made on time than explain that a perfectly good gun in times of war was not adopted due to political pressure.
The Mas-36 was already back in production and the Mas-44 is not drastically different enough that it would need months to start production so the idea that it was not made before May 1945 most likely originates from the fact that it did not see combat in WW2 which is true, but there were actually other reasons it was not deployed.
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Production of the MAS-44 rifle until September 1945
By the end of World War II, approximately 2,000 units had been produced.
The production breakdown was as follows:
January - March 1945: Preparation of production facilities, assembly of the first prototypes and pre-production samples.
April - August 1945: Start of serial production. The rate was approximately 400-500 units per month.
Result: By the official end of the war (September 1945), the factory had assembled just over 2,000 rifles out of a total order of 6,200.
what, the order was 10 000 rifles a month in 1944 which was than changed to 50 000 rifles a month in January. But ofcourse they could not fulfill the order.