I think back in days of moscow, when memeretta20 was introduced at sametime as ppsh41.
Someone posted article that mentioned 10? 20? Round mags were only used in prison guard / police duties and never issued to military.
Anyway, its lonk time ago so take this memory as sophisticated guess rather than 100% true.
correct, as far as I know.
Funny you mention that, since I was drafting up something for that.
But yes my god, so much foldering needs to be done.
Using the wiki as a source is not a good case especially the photo is from a store that sold beretta mags
I sadly couldn’t find any evidence of these magazines
Now you lost me…
Just… No…
This is apparently is a M38A from the Iola Museum of Montese, within its WW2 exhibit, with a explicitly stated 30 round magazine:
Rock Island lists a serial number 2794 Beretta M38/42, with a explicitly stated 30 round magazine:
Gun Jesus mentions that 20, 30 and 40 round magazines were made for the M38A in his video about the gun, though he gets a little bit grilled in the comments of the assosiated article, which does affirm that 30-rounders are post-war and that WW2 magazines only came in 10, 20 and 40 sizes.
I invite people to do their own research, but if I am allowed to speculate just a little:
I think that 30-round magazines did exist at the time and were in use.
They either were, but at least are today much rarer than known existing 20 and 40 round examples.
Externally almost identical to the 40 round versions, except for markings on the back and peep holes, which only went down and numbered to 30 on 30-round examples. These factors makes it hard to itentify magazine types from pictures, only physical inspection or detailed photos would reveal the type of magazine.
Many, if not most 30-round magazines around today were created post-war.
The combination of the above factors could be the exclamation for the confusion on the topic, which is understandable.
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And again, someone should probably look into this deeper, but here’s some summery of evidence I gathered in the span of an hour.
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Anyways, it’s late, I’m going to sleep.
Well thank you then
Great job with the research! I think it’s enough evidence to consider implementing in some form at this point.
No, it is not. The weapon simply doesn’t fit the game at all. There’s no need for something like that, when there are literally already 3 berettas with 40 mag in BR2/3.
I have no point what’s benefit in introducing literally the same weapon yet again, but just with worse mag capacity.
It’s completely irrelevant if the mag existed or not.
Me personally, I don’t care, however I like choice and the more choices you have the better for the gamers. For example, there are many Thompson variants, however I don’t mine seeing more Thompson variants, so in retrospect I would be fine with more Beretta variants as well. Adding additional variants changes nothing in the game, if you don’t like a new variant, don’t use it. 
It literally doesn’t cost anyone anything for having it available, unless it was premium or event.
However, not a ten round variant. 
“The weapon simply doesn’t fit the game at all.”
It’s a Beretta M38A, seems pretty fitting to me. Maybe it’s out of place in a WW2 game, or perhaps I need my eyes checked.
“There’s no need for something like that, when there are literally already 3 berettas with 40 mag in BR2/3.”
In the tech tree, sure. The M38A is different from the M1 and M38/42 due to a higher rate of fire, even if it is a small amount.
“I have no point what’s benefit in introducing literally the same weapon yet again, but just with worse mag capacity.”
It literally isn’t the same weapon as the M38/42 nor the M1. It’s like saying the Gewehr 41 is literally the Gewehr 43?
“It’s completely irrelevant if the mag existed or not.”
I’m appreciative of your concise and well thought-out contribution to this thread!
If It has Bayonet yes, if it doesn’t, no and it shouldn’t be a TT in my opinion, considering that a 30-round magazine was rare.
Nothing stops you from loading only 30 rounds into the 40 rounds magazine so its not game breaking even if 30 rounds mags are post war.
We were discussing research that he sent me, we just also got into this discussion at the same time.
Though, I don’t mind the coalition of “magazine existed” + “just partially load the mags” crowds cooperating here, because I care about results… I think it did exist, and I would like a BR II Beretta M38A, if people have other reasons for wanting the same thing I won’t argue (too much).
Oh but when japan gets virtually the same tank 3 fucking times it’s no big deal.
Soldier do load less into their magazine to avoid stoppages and other reliability issues so it’s not unusual in reality, however it would be the first gun to have less ammo loaded in game since reliability is not a thing.
In those types of situations the soldier would load two or three less.
Not ten.
There is a reason why you did not give specific numbers.
Because it would only reveal how indifferent this new Beretta would be compared to the others.
Yeah, because people will definitely be thrilled to be able to grind event based around the weapon that is present about three times in the tech tree, in superior forms
And counting the 20 magazine variants, this would be the 6th variant of the Beretta.
But if people want to literally push the sixth Beretta to the most overbloated BR in terms of SMGs. Okay, lol.
I guess more than 20 BR2 German/Italian SMGs (including event/Prem) aren’t enough.
But whatever.
I would really appreciate having something unique. And definitely not another BR2 SMG for the Germans/Italians. And especially not copypasted one.
Depends on the issue, early MP40 magazines in extreme weather conditions were loaded for only 27 rounds before guiding rails were added which fixed the problem altogether.
