Once again i do not understand this attitude and vulgarity… despite disagreeing with you i have been respectful although made some snarky comment by calling you delusional.
“ive been respectful besides the times i wasnt respectful”
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This is true… i could have opened up the conversation with “And why do you think that?”
Fair enough.
and the 200 meter example was disrespectful cuz we both know thats horse shit since almost no engagements are that far away. bringing up disingenous points is disrespectful
You could say that… regardless it does less damage at range and is not all round… i mean as you say you can control it and the 30 rd is better for the damage in cqc so who knows.
To me it just doesn’t add up. We can disagree.
MkB42(M) has almost identical recoil (14/5 at 720 RpM) to thompson.30 cal (14/3 at 980 RpM) and actually better recoil if you consider the ROF and recoil/s
No one fights at ranges of 100+m. Even I, in my crusade against body armor when compiling all the weapons it affects, considered any effective range reduction above 100m to be ‘no difference’
And even if you were to fight at 200m range: the dispersion and velocity both are much more important stat to consider in that case.
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It is… but for Br4
Fedorov Avtomat does everything that MkB42(M) does but better
Right now 20 rounds at 2.6s reload just make it not sufficient at BR5, even with better dispersion, but that’s largely a case of BR5 ARs having too high of a dispersion (0.4-0.5) when they shouldn’t exceeded 0.35
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.30 carbine is more powerful than a pistol cartridge, but not as powerful as a rifle cartridge.
Ergo… Intermediate cartridge. If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and isn’t chambered in 6.5 arisaka because that is not an intermediate cartridge, I would reckon that the M2, M3, 1944 Hyde, and .30 Thompsons fit every classification that is usually applied to the term ‘assault rifle.’
That is, select fire, intermediate cartridge-firing, detachable magazine-fed rifle.
Irony is the fact that 6.5 arisaka is actually much closer to all intermediate cartridges than .30 carbine.
except it doesnt.
“a firearm must have at least the following characteristics to be considered an assault rifle”
In next few hours im going to expect one certain invidual to appear whine about how this US army definition of assault rifle isnt universal.
Well, il answer before he becomes to whine here.
US army definition fits quite well to guns that were made for hmm US army.
And so far no banana state definition of assault rifle has been brought here and even if they did I find them quite irrelevant.
Also.
Gun Jezus Ian > Random enlisted forum users.
US army didn’t have official assault rifles or assault rifle doctrine during ww2. Every other doctrine says it’s an assault rifle/assault carbine.
this is definition of assault rifle of US army
and M2 doesnt fit to it.
What exactly are these entirely irrelevant other doctrines ?
Ian “wikipedia” McCollum does not constitute a good source of firearms knowledge. And neither is wikipedia.
Agree, id rather reference “Lolispat420 from enlisted forums” as my source
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Please make an actual argument I’m begging you.
You need a coloring book to figure out why M2 doesnt fit there or what was unclear ?
What was Americas ww2 assault rifle doctrine definition? What is literally every other nations assault rifle doctrine?
You kind of answered earlier to your own question.
And it also doesnt fit to theyr “modern” criteria of assault rifle, like the others of ww2 era does so what was unclear ?
You are free to enlight us.
I’m sure the intermediate cartridge select-fire detachable box magazine that has an effective range of up to 300m(it even fits the 300m claim that I’ve never even heard of before!) carbine is merely… a heavy submachine gun. Or a “Carbine.”
And I guess the Type 96 is also an assault rifle?
So you do realize the reason American doctrine doesn’t define it as an assault rifle is cuz they have a seperaye definition for assault carbine??!?
Other nations like Russia combine the two into one category. So yes it is NOT a smg like ur trying to claim here (before you deny that you are trying to keep the Thompson 30 cal in the smg category, claiming it’s not suited for an assault rifle category) so please justify how this doesn’t fit in the assault rifle category in game when every other doctrine puts it there and Americas still classifies it as an assault carbine.
Sights are maximum set to 270m and the bullet drop between 270 - 300m is approximately somewhere around 30cm. Clearly, and regarding moving targets, you arent only leading your shots but aiming above.
Quite ineffective.
all in all, one could say it never was even intended to fight at that distance.
Also, indermediate cartridge is defined to be between rifle and smg, .30 carbine has less energy at 300m than many smg’s at muzzle.
Unlike the other intermediate cartridges of that era and modern ones.
You pick ? But definitely not assault rifle.