Change Things Up: Make Selbstlader M1916 A BR 5 Rifle

Should the Selbstlader M1916 be adjusted to BR 5?
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Selbstlader M1916

I think I can speak for others including myself that the Battle Pass BR 4 Rifle fatigue is getting real. However, especially since the Selbstlader’s magazine is even larger than the 20 round weapons we’ve seen in the past, the Selbstlader could be adjusted to become Enlisted’s first ever BR 5 semi-auto rifle. Here are some changes I would propose, which could be adjusted as needed:

Damage: 15.3 → 26.0
Rate of Fire: 350 → 420

The Kretz is already an example of a battle pass rifle with high damage. And of course, Bolt-Action rifles have similar damage stats for the same 7.92mm cartridge chambering.

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ROF can be way higher 520 even

I don’t know how I would feel about what is essentially a 420rpm 25 round bolt action in BR V. It would be competitive sure, but it would blow every other weapon out of the ocean by a mile.

And then because this semi auto sports bolt action like damage, people will start asking for damage increases to other semi autos. So, probably a no sorry.

It should ideally be equal in strength to the select-fires. Kind of like how the Winchester M1895 and Fedorov M1912 are similar in strength but have different damages and rates of fire at BR 2.

And it’s a Battle Pass weapon. Fortunately, it will have a small overall effect on a battle because there’s a limit of 4 per person. It can be adjusted as needed over time.

And we haven’t seen other BR 2 semi-autos get buffed at BR 2 because the Kretz was added. No other BR 5 semi-autos can be adjusted, because no other BR 5 semi auto exists.

Maybe the BR IV theme was on purpose to try to get veterans to play BR IV.

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If that was the theme, where are the BR 4 tech tree rifles?

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Im still waiting for them too. I suggested a few of them myself as well.

Either way, what’s the problem with a BR 5 semi-auto rifle?

I wish the no-voters would give some constructive feedback as to why they don’t want it.

Told ya already 26 of damage is way too much for a semi with 25 rounds if It would be 10 ok but 25

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I mean, just compare this with the G43 DFE, almost same gun but one is semi-auto and the other is full auto, even the Cei-Rigotti at a lower BR would be a better pick for BR5. I would rather play the 15 rounds AVS/AVT than even consider a semi auto only rifle at BR5.

Edit : 26 damage is certainly unrealistic

I think it should be a br 3 rifle. Similar to the American M1907

So you didnt read the post

I think a G43 with longer barrel(740mm) and a 30 round magazine would be a better option for Br5.

https://www.gunboards.com/threads/the-experimental-barrel-length-g43.194199/
g43

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Read what ? That the Kretz exists ? And ? This is only case on a BR2 rifle with a very low rate of fire.

You want a BR5 rifle with 170 rpm ?

G43 DFE and Selbstlader M1916 are pretty different. DFE is full-auto, Selbstlader M1916 is semi-auto. DFE uses Tokarev’s gas-piston system, Selbstlader M1916 is flapper-locked. So-on, and so-forth.

26 Damage would allow for certain damage thresholds to be avoided, since the weapon would be at a disadvantage of being the slowest-firing, non-automatic rifle at BR 5. If it’s too strong, it can be adjusted! I think the average player would perform better with it than a semi-auto, but to a lot of people it would be generally equal in strength.

Also, the vz.24 deals 27.3 damage with a 7.92x57mm cartridge, the same as the Selbstlader M1916. I don’t see why a semi-automatic in the same BR as select-fire rifles couldn’t be given a similar damage profile in this context.

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Thinking about your point, this could be an interesting idea honestly, but I think that this would either be really good or really bad with no in between.

The Kretz is very good at BR2 for instance (I also use it at BR3)

I think it would be really good, especially for people that can’t control select-fires at full auto. It would give them a chance when fighting against players that can, and might incentivize future BR 5 semi-autos in the future (such as that cool G43 variant @Tunisian_Megumin posted!).

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Hey, did you see that review of the Selbstlader M1916 rifle—the one some guy posted? It looks pretty good, and it shoots really well.

I already have been hyped into using this rifle in my BR IV line up, while I have no interest in giving this rifle to my BR V troops.

Valuing hype over long-term planning and consideration is why the game has many of the problems it has today. It’s why weapons like the Scotti Naval and MKb 42 (15) don’t change: the weapons are bestowed identities that people refuse to change in their minds. For those particular cases, the change should be for accuracy reasons (objective), this one is more for changing things up/variety (subjective), but the base issue is the same.

And there’s plenty of other 20-25 round Axis semi-autos that could be placed at either BR 4 or 5 as a battle pass weapon. This is an opportunity for them to try something different, and always add something like this later for BR 4.