As of now, the MP.40 has the stats of a BR 1 SMG except for it’s damage, sitting at 7.0 instead of the standard 6.8 for 9mm SMGs. While this does help it perform at BR 2 despite the low rate of fire, an additional buff to dispersion would help make the iconic weapon compete with it’s peers such as the Lanchester, PPS-43 and Type 100 Early.
Currently, every SMG with “Beretta” in it’s name at BR 1 and 2 offers something more competitive than the MP.40’s damage alone, but the MP.40 with it’s slow rate of fire could also receive a dispersion buff to help it stand out. I would like to see it buffed from 0.70 to 0.53, matching the ZK-383 at BR 3.
Would you like to see the MP.40’s dispersion buffed from 0.70 to 0.53?
I recognize where the idea for where this perticular suggestion comes from.
In the interest of fairness, I’ll share another suggestion on the topic for buffing the MP 40, that way people can decide on the approach they agree with the most: MP40 variants fire rate and dispersion buff
The two buffs are compatible, in fact I also included a dispersion buff, though not as high as the 0.53 dispersion.
My poll is still open and will only automatically close in 4 days, so why the dedicated topic? They will probably just close it down as a “duplicate”.
I think it helps make the game more varied and interesting when you can have SMGs with different damage brackets, so different rates of fire can perform well at the same battle rating because they either 2 or 3 tap vitality. I think the MP.38 could be downtiered, and then you can use a similar weapon that is competitive at each rating?
Agreed the MP40 dispersion could use a buff. Although I can easily be convinced of that for anything, as I’d like to see reduced dispersion across the board.
But to be a bit nitpicky, I do think .53 is a bit low. Most guns around that BR with such low dispersion (M3, M3A1, hopefully the FNAB in the future) have some sort of major downside (low rof + velocity, or poor damage output from low rof). Unlike those, the MP40 still has pretty solid damage output plus better range capabilities, making it more well rounded than them overall, so I would say something like .58 or .60 would be better.
I guess that’s fair, though both the M3A1 and FNAB really aren’t BR 2 material. They simply cannot get enough buffs to make them viable without changing what they are completely.
I mean, MAYBE the FNAB can get a damage and dispersion buff, but the M3A1 would need to be a laser.
Yeah, implementing all of ww2 smg development in (effectively) 3 BRs is a bit of an exercise in futility unfortunately. Alway gonna be some stuff screwed over.
the second weapon upgrade gives SMGs a 15% increase to their fire rate.
550x1,15=632,5 which is than rounded to 630.
Almost all weapons have their maximum fire rate by default, so almost all automatic guns have incorrect fire rate when max upgraded (really bad upgrade IMO, but it is what it is).
The one unfortunate thing about the MP.40 is the official handbooks don’t have a listed rate of fire, and the rates of fire in various documents are all over the place. Ammo changes from Pist.Patr.08 to Pist.Patr.08mE could also be a factor in the variability of these, since Pist.Patr.08mE is a hotter round.
MP40 had a long production run with close to a million produced between 1940 and 44, with significant changes, varying degree of quality control (especially towards the end of the war) three different main producers with dozens of subcontractors.
any fire rate between 400 and 550 is realistic, but in Enlisted guns almost always have their highest possible fire rate, I dont see why MP40 should be an exception especially since its already an underdog in its BR.
