Much of the discussion around balancing the FNAB-43 appears to be around the ROF, but I would suggest instead changing the dispersion to increase viability for several reasons.
Among German and Italian SMGs, the FNAB-43 has quite poor dispersion and low rate of fire. Fully upgraded dispersion values of similar br1-2 smgs (excluding higher rof guns with worse dispersion) include:
FNAB-43: 0.75
M38A (20): 0.61
MP40: 0.70
Beretta M1: 0.73
M38/42: 0.68
Of all of these, the FNAB-43 has the worst ROF, and no extra damage like the (still faster) MP40 has. This means that, with the poor dispersion combined with the low rate of fire, you cannot aim for precise shots to compensate for it. Other guns like the M38/42 and M38A(20) have low dispersion and high rate of fire, allowing for more precise fire and hitting distant enemies and reliable headshots by sheer volume of fire.
The FNAB-43 is also one of few closed-bolt submachine guns in the game. This type of action tends to be more accurate as there is no delay like open bolt guns have, so it should be more accurate than its open bolt contemporaries anyway for realism and authenticity. As such, to make it feel more realistic and give it a niche as a slow-firing, precise gun, I would suggest decreasing the dispersion to around 0.50-0.55. This is not unusual for br II, as the American M3 and M3A1 have dispersion values of 0.54 and 0.52, respectively.
If archival documents showing the ROF should be ~800 can be found as many have discussed it would make a good BR3 smg. Regardless though, lowering dispersion would be a good interim solution for improving viability until anything solid is found.
Negative nancy here reportin for duty haha. Soz mp40 i wished had a higher fire rate with its current dispertion, which is enuff to work with. I know if the rate of fire was hogher something else would have to give or it would be considered “op”. However, dispertion can be your friend, such as the case with the obrez.
I explicitly stated chosing from among “similar br1-2 SMGs”. Yes the dispersion is average compared to wildly different submachine guns, but compared to low ROF smgs across factions, it is quite poor. The OVP, Beretta M1918, and Obrez have worse dispersion, yes, but those are very different guns with a different role due to the high rate of fire so I did not see them being worth comparing to.
That’s what I used at the end to argue for a 0.5 - 0.55 dispersion value. There is a bit of an issue with that, as the M3A1 dispersion is balanced out by the low velocity. Despite that, I think something lower for the FNAB-43 is still reasonable, though, as it is much less powerful.
I want the FNAB buffed, but have never been a fan of increasing it’s ROF to 800 and up. I agree, the dispersion should be addressed, however I also think it needs a ROF buff, and 600 base and 690 maxed would be more then sufficient, and would probably be a far more accurate actual combat ROF then the maxed 800 and up. This would make it comparable to the PPS-42 and easily keep it within BR2.
As the FNAB currently is configured, it should be BR1.
Well, if the Dev’s kept the FNAB’s max ROF under 700 it easily continues to qualify as BR2. It would still have a considerably less rate if fire then the Soviet PPS-43, as well as the Soviets BR1 PPD-34 (920 ROF) and PPT-27 (1,240 ROF). So, increasing the ROF to 600-690 should not push it to a higher BR level. The PPS-42 is currently 600-690. As far as it being a reskinned m38A, I guess that would depend on the user as everyone would have their own opinion, but, at least IMOP it wouldn’t be be a carbon copy.
If it is not going to be buffed, then it needs to be dropped to BR1.
I beg to differ. I hypothetically increased the FNAB vs the M38 and compared the TT versions (with FNAB increased to 600), and the two Premium M38 and FNAB (with FNAB increased to 690). I don’t have either maxed TT weapons, just the premium, however this should be good enough for comparison purposes.
So, if the FNAB base were increased to 600, same as M38 they are only equal in two categories, and fully maxed three. So, besides the fact that they look nothing alike, they would have less in common then in common. In the tech tree versions, the only thing they would have in common would be the ROF and recoil control %. “IF” the maxed versions were the same as the premium, then the only other matching thing would be reload speed. But, they would not be matching smg’s. So, they wouldn’t be copy weapons as they wouldn’t look the same or feel the same.
