Why is the Stalingrad Hurricane slower than the Il-2 single seater?

I like the 40mm hurricane.

Alot

Oh - well yes that would give it some value …

Given the Enlisted game mechanisms it seems pretty bad - hitting things with relatively slow firing cannon seems much less effective in ground attack than rockets and bombs.

I guess it might work as a bomber interceptor?

But that isn’t the point of my OP! :slight_smile:

it’s not a bug
it’s supposed to happen

???

How is not that a bug? The plane is literally unplayable because of it.

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As mentioned, the plane is rather slow.
After first spawn, the speed is too high, the plane cant handle it.

Confirmed here as not a bug: Gaijin.net // Issues

Some interesting earlier duscussions about this symptom:

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Might want to invest in a time machine, go to interwar period and demand Hawker fix their shit plane. It’s literally it’s characteristic. It’s wings are made out of sticks and potato sacks, when you overspeed it, the canvas bulges out at the top of the wing and increases lift, overpowering the elevator.

It only really starts happening well past 400, so all you need to do is throttle down to idle and maybe burn some speed by turning and rolling a bit. And not diving too steep

And that’s why it happens only once usually, you start high and fast and just overspeed, then never recover back to same energy state. If you take time to climb back to same altitude and speed and dive again it will happen again

It’s like saying the Boston ripping after you go close to 600 and try to pull 10G is a bug

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It does it a long way short of 400 kph in the game. (translated from original Finnish, which is available at the link)

And in real life it was observed at 530kph - Hawker Hurricane at dive | Key Aero

Also Hurricanes made after about 1939 had metal covered wings - only the first 500 had them

oddly specific flaws like that for one plane

Suprised the engine doest get damaged in the yak 9T for example…

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Further on the Hurricane having diving problems - this forum notes that the problems occur over 500kph even with fabric covered wings

Thank you for these - this “feature” is clearly wrong, and needs to be looked at again - I’ll raise another bug report giving the references we have found.

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It means nothing since speeds/engine powers are artificially lowered. Meaning, this “feature” is happening on adequately lower speed as well.

I still think this plane is basically unusable because of it. And I don’t know a single reason why this “hyper realistic feature” exist at all. It does just cripple the already pretty mediocre plane, lol.

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for the love of god, boost the engine power too please haha (across the board)

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That is clearly not true - many planes get perfectly reasonable speeds - just not hte Hurricane

engines are fine IMO, most people are just REALLY bad at retaining energy.
I seem to be able to hit reasonable, expected performance pretty reliably in most planes, be it climb or speed, or whatever else

Just tested the soviet hurricane again - quickly hit 388 IAS even with 500ft/min climb and full load of ammo/rockets and it was still slowly accelerating. Seemingly you have to have the nose of the plane suprisingly low for level flight in the Hurricane though. The uncontrolled pitch up only starts around 480 IAS and becomes total loss of pitch down control at like 500. Still managed to hit like 520 before it pulled me up

For most of dives just throttling down to 0 will let you retain control.

Funnily enough. i dont have a problem with that “feature” of the hurricane.

I tend to sit around 400-450, so dont get the pleasure of it fucking up my runs

But still…its oddly specific to have

IL-2 gets a fantasy flight model lmao
Its why it can outmaneuver many things it really really shouldn’t

Does it?

Seems to behave exactly as its supposed to. 109s are not turn fighters

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The IL-2 has huge wings, do not turn fight it, do vertical maneuvers against them as they lose energy very fast and fall like bricks while trying to go vertical.

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The title of that vid is a bit misleading…

Its more IL 2 vs slow transport planes/bombers