Does that mean you want to activate it permanently?
But it only became that way after the last major update.
Before that, it wasnât as pronounced or balanced.
more Maps mean more Customization options for my Squads(Berlin) , meanwhile i have custom the uniforms only for low BR-MapsâŠ
Thats moar Moneh which CoMmUnItY could spend.
Berlin for BR1-5 !!!
This means that maps in East Prussia and Hungary, such as the Lake Balaton Offensive or the Soviet Invasion of Manchuria, are needed to increase the variety. Both are towards the end of the war and perfect for BR5. Incidentally, the Invasion of Manchuria would add even more variety.
By the way, this problem has only existed since the introduction of the awesome Battle Rating.
I think itâs the wrong approach to punish 90% of players; itâs a gap that can actually be closed bit by bit.
Make Enlisted great again! Not to junk!
They release like two new map presents per year so how long should we wait? Five years?
Not really 90% but sure.
It may be that they want to reduce effort here to save costs.
But thatâs sawing off the branch theyâre sitting on by giving up their unique selling points and trying to enter the mass market, from which thereâs no way back.
And Enlisted is clearly at a disadvantage here, and this will increase cost pressure even further.
The goal must be to elevate the brand in order to become independent from the rest of the market and position themselves with a unique selling point. Thatâs why Enlisted has made it this far.
If they give up on that, the game will be gone in three to four years.
At the very latest, when new games with better graphics come out. Then thereâs no reason to play Enlisted anymore if the historical relevance is lost.
There are currently enough games, including AAAA titles, that show what happens when you streamline them. They quickly disappear from the market and are not accepted by players.
Unique selling points rn are bot squad system and TT. The campaigns didnt work.
Lost for four years now.
Merge increased numbers but whatever.
Do you really think so? I see it the other way around.
Precisely because the bots arenât perfect, even less skilled players get a sense of achievement by scoring a few kills. And that rewards them.
So I see that as a huge plus in terms of easier accessibility.
Sure, for a better player, theyâre annoying.
In my eyes, the unique selling points are quite clear: the interaction of the weapon types, damage models, vehicles with historical armor values, and no HP bar depletion, maps of original battlefields, the mix of arcade and tactical gameplay and also simulation, the squads and their configuration, etcâŠ
Thereâs a lot. And precisely because Enlisted started out NOT wanting to serve the casual market, to attract those players who simply donât want to play BF5 or CoD.
For a long time, the game gave me the feeling of being able to play one of the historical battles of the time. Now, unfortunately, thatâs lost.
Why play a WW2 game? To experience WW2!
How many games offer a squad system akin to Enlisted?
Then what were the Panzer III B in Moscow or the M2 Carbine in Normandy? The Twin Towers?
Pffff⊠Yeah Sure, very unique. Not every game offers different types of weaponsâŠ
The shitty bugged ones from the old version of War Thunder? Or infantry where Soviet body armour magically reduces 10% of all kinds of bullet damage?
Didnât they overbuff the Panther armor? And werenât T-34 driversâ hatches not known for flying off when hit with HE?
Also, this exists in many other games such as Red Orchestra, HLL or Squad 44.
Tank modules do have HP (bars) and technically the crew are also HP bars. And this exists in other games as well.
So does Battlefield, Call of Duty, HLL, Squad 44 Red OrchestraâŠ
Very unique I see.
Didnât I just mention that?
But yeah, for once there is actually something unique.
Never forget the very historical Jumbo in Normandy or the M3A1 Grease Gun which was issued in December 1944.
Or the post-merge era where the same M3A1 Grease gun could be used in Tunisia.
But I forgot, that is completely different because the Panther was issued in mid-1943 and the M3A1 Grease Gun in December 1944 so the Panther is clearly worse⊠wait, what?
you could have 9 man squads with FG42s or M2 carbines from the very beginning from what i know
How about this?
- add BR6 and put all the fakes there (Autohei, T20, Fedorov, AS, RD, Hyde, Hori, SU-9 etc.)
- make BR6 ±0 MM
- open all maps for BR6 and even free for all factions
- keep BRs 1-5 normal WW2 with normal map distribution and without prototypes powercreep
So the âI donât care about WW2 I just want to use the best guns and winâ players can enjoy it there?
How about this, part 2:
- Leave the âlegacy mapsâ alone:
-Moscow I-II
-Stalingrad I-III
-Tunisia I-III
-Rzhev I-III
-Normandy III-V
-Ardenes III-V
-Berlin III-V - Every single new map you add - make it BR I-V but donât link it to a specific city/battle/event, e.g.:
- Generic German town
This map would fit for Soviet, German and USA BRs 3-4-5 as it can be located anywhere from East Prussia to Western Germany, and would not look out of place either with T-34 vs Pz IV or Firefly vs Tiger II.
- Soviet steppe village
This map in summer/early autumn colors would fit for Soviet and German BR 1-2-3 as battle stage for anything from Barbarossa 1941, advance towards Stalingrad 1942, Kursk area 1943 or even Khalkhin Gol steppe between USSR and Japan in 1939 for BR 1.
- Belarusian lakes and forests
Technically, youâre right about the Normandy and Berlin campaigns back then. The opportunity would have been there.
In practice, however, this automatic weapon spam didnât exist because the weapon grind was done per campaign. This meant that you had players with different equipment and levels of progress in each match.
This meant that every player wasnât at their maximum possible equipment limit. This mixed up the different skills more, which admittedly could have been a difficult start for a beginner.
However, these players who had the ambition here werenât flash in the pan either.
However, the zero-recoil childrenâs laser rifle M2 Carbine wasnât yet in the game at that time.
Thatâs precisely the madness of wanting to make everything the same and maximize flexibility through streamlining.
All of this leads to even more imbalance and dissatisfaction.
Your method of arguing with others has put you into a position where you are essentially saying that the game was always generic slop and should continue to be generic slop. That the game has few, if any defining features or aesthetic. That is a very strange place to be, for what reason should anyone listen to you, if you yourself claim the game is just some nebulous shovel ware, then what exactly are you arguing on behalf of?
game was always generic slop an
Which it was, at least according to its own standards.
to be generic slop.
The merge was a success as shown by robihr and so you far you NEVER showed numbers (or at least got lost).
The campaigns were doomed as other numbers also showed that apart from Normandy and Berlin, they were underpopulated and people always stacked one faction.
That the game has few, if any defining features or aesthetic
I mentioned squad system and the diverse TTs etc., offering weapons that are uncommon ams often und unheard of, which we would not get with historical accuracy.
Everything else was and is done by other games, often better, including the campaign system (Easy Red 2).
That is why almost if not all âhistorically accurateâ do not have TTs and grinding, at least not on this scale. Or even a campaign level system.
is a very strange place to be
Yeah I told you guys for eternity now, that if the game does not make fun to you to the point some quit 9/10 matches, you should switch the product because 2-4+ years âwe want historical accuracâ resulted in nothing.
But maybe that is some kind of kink that is fun to people.
what reason should anyone listen to you,
Dunno, why should anyone listen to you, if you play a game for almost two years now that you hate?
then what exactly are you arguing on behalf of?
Why are you still playing a game that you dont like for years now?
âWhich it was, at least according to its own standards.â
-Your idea of generic must be very generous indeed.
âThe merge was a successâŠalways stacked one factionâ
-Everyone knows the merge gave a boost to player count, I never said otherwise. There were alternatives people argued for, but itâs done and over with. The Steam release was the real boon though.
âI mentioned squad system and the diverse TTs etcâŠEverything else was and is done by other games, often betterâŠâ
-Did you even need to be arguing against me and others with such fervor then, nearly all of us have said we are fine with most of what you consider unheard of weapons in moderation. We are currently arguing over them going a bridge to far, specifically the opening of all maps to all brs, and constant shift away from its original vision.
âBut maybe that is some kind of kinkâ
âDunno, why should anyone listen to you, if you play a game for almost two years now that you hate?that is fun to people.â
âWhy are you still playing a game that you donât like for years now?â
-You are desperate for me to be someone I am not. I have had plenty of fun in this game, you are arguing with a villain in your head.
I could be very rude right now and just use your own reductive arguments on your comment about the reasons you enjoy this game, but I wonât because itâs silly. No one can defend forever against an eternally reductive argument, this why they tell you not to use them in law school, because eventually the opposition will do the same.
Can you please learn the forum quotation-function?
Your idea of generic must be very generous indeed.
What?
Again, according to DF, campaigns only had stuff that was used there and that was not true. Nothing to do with my or your standards but what they told us.
Everyone knows the merge gav
Then where is this Historical Accuracy Facebook Group that allegedly makes up the majority of the playerbase and wants more historical accuracy?
were alternatives people argued for, bu
Which were all bad and not very supported by players so why should the devs bother?
nearly all of us have said we are fine with most of what you consider unheard of weapons in moderation. We
I am aware of this intellectual bankrupty but cant never show it enough for the sake of fun alone.
We are currently arguing over them going a bridge to far,
You mean the fact that the M3A1 can appear in Tunisia according to you but not the Tiger II despite the Tiger II being issued in mid 1944 and the M3A1 being issued in December 1944?
Oh please finally explain is why this aint hypocritical.
specifically the opening of all maps to all brs
Dunno, some BRV items make more sense in Moscow than certain BRII items.
from its original vision.
Dunno, the original vision where they lied to you and cucked you for like two to three years? The original vision according to someone who joined 2023?
Not gonna lie, both cases sound funny.
You are desperate for me to be someone I am
Big words from the Strawman Master.
I have had plenty of fun in this game, you are arguing with a villain in your head.
It was so fun that one change that barely changes anything at all makes you wanna quit. Yeah, sounds normal to me.
I could be very rude right now
If this your nice version, then your definition of rude is very off.
reductive
Do you even know what the term means?
why they tell you not to use them in law school
And in Business School, they would tell you that making a game for the 10-12 members of the Enlisted Historical Accuracy Facebook Group will result in bankrupty.
âCan you please learn the forum quotation-function?â
-No, I will never use that function, it clutters up the screen too much when scrolling.
Reading all these responses youâve made, you just seem to be very ill willed towards me and others. You frame nearly every argument as though we are rabid and never happy with any changes or updates, which is entirely untrue. Looking at one of your recent posts, you do not even seem to really care about this game other than rare weapons and the squad system, in-fact you mock it, yet you argue as though itâs the apple of your eye.
I still do not understand your obsession with my forum stats, perhaps there are those that attribute some arcane meaning to it? Iâve heard redditors take great pride in their forum stats, but I donât really engage with that side of the internet, so youâll have to forgive me for not understanding.
Iâm holding out hope they do not go through with this map change, but in the very likely case that they do, and do not at least meet us halfway, you will most probably have little to no interaction with me shortly after, so I wouldnât get to upset when responding to me from now on.
-Sincerely, The Strawman Master (;
to be very ill willed towards me and others
Well, for starters you claimed to know what the starter vision of the game and the community was and yet you not only joined in 2023, never participated in CBT, but also do not provide proof in terms of numbers.
The rest is just acussing non-believers of wanting Fortnite.
and never happy with any changes or updates
Well, granted. Some people didnt post for months so I am not sure what they believe except that apparently only one topic matters for them, which is HA.
But people like Veekay45 hated the merge, hated stuff like Chinese squads or hated the jet update for historical reasons and generally complain about the HA situation but still pay.
And, granted, the expert of community of yours posts like three posts per month, but the shift is still funny.
you do not even seem to really care about the game
And by looking at your activity, you barely care about the community so who cares.
other than rare weapons and the squad system, in-fact you mock it, yet you argue as though itâs the apple of your eye.
Is this the best counter of yours? Calling the non-unique mechanics of the game mid or worse means I dont care?
Wow. Law School would be proud I guess. Case closed.
I still do not understand your obsession with my forum
Dunno, you claimed to know the true/ mainstream opinion of the playerbase (at least forum) and what the devs wanted in the past but from all I see so far, I see someone who didnt even join when they released new campaigns with CBT phases and has a low interaction rate. Which is not important unless you make certain claims.
Its like claiming to be a doctor but your license is a certificate for completing a one-week online first-aid course. Not very impressive.
About as impressive as dodging the question why the M3A1 (December 1944) is totally cool in Tunisia but the Tiger II (Mid 1944) makes you post less on the forum.
you will most probably have little to no interaction with me sh
Like right now?
So only two posts per month now from the man who knows what we want?
Would be more important to know if you would still play though.

least as event vehicles
Nah Dawg. Chi-Ha MUST be TT.
I really enjoy having Tunisia higher br line up because I feel weird using Italian weapons that are br 4. Itâs also nice having my br 3 finally be in Tunisia because I hardly ever get br 3 Tunisia