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[Stein_Grenadier]

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There’s honestly nothing to look forward to in the near future. I’ll be going on hiatus. Maybe except to bother DF to honor their commitment of giving me the event engineer squads after the event finally ends.

Here’s a (mostly) objective look at faction deficiencies and potential remedies. Use these however you wish. These only pertain to tech tree unlocks.

If and when I do come back, I’ll be comparing this list with… Whatever state the game ends up in.

[GeneralBrus]

AT guns are indeed not in a good state, BRs dont change them, and US don’t have a better AT gun.

But what do you mean with high capacity SMG?
Axis dont have them, and you claim Stalingrad PPSH dont count because they are discontinued- yet you also have no check mark for soviets, yet you claim that US gets them? 50 round Thompson is nice, but not inherently better than PPSH.

Quite frankly, I am not sure what to think about your checklist.

[Wieloglow]

Soviets have high capacity SMG already (PP Shpitalniy - 97 rounds).
I wonder what is the Japan’s high-capacity SMG, if their best SMG (Tokyo Arsenal) holds 50 ammo.

Japan does not need scoped semi-automatic rifles - it has machine guns instead.

Soviets and Germans have flamethrower tanks (HT-130 and Flammpanzer II) - no need to add more.

[Stein_Grenadier]

@GeneralBrus

yet you also have no check mark for soviets,

Oh. Likely got unchecked during formatting.

[robihr]

you should have added missing AT canon capabilities for BR5, which all nations lack.

[SzepWaxweiler]

1-For Ar for Japan, we have to compromise otherwise we can’t add anything to it the best 3 candidates are Type 2 with 6.5 mm ammo (SMG with bigger ammo than normal small 6.5 and smaller than 6.5 Arisaka people from the forum already made topics about it), Dutch M.15 Madsen gun(captured)(With shortened barrel and chambered in 6.5x53R dutch mannlicher ammo, it would be similar in performance and role to Fedorov AR soviets have.) and lastly STG-44 (Japan bought 6 I don’t see them being in the tech tree but as a gold order why not)

( Dutch M.15 Madsen gun)
2- For Bar like guns Germany could get MKB 42(G)

and the Soviets could get Kalashnikov light machine gun

3-For low-BR semi-auto for Soviets 1918 Tokarev mosin-nagant semi-auto conversion(there are carbine and full length version)

4-For high BR Japan handheld AT
Type 4 with 90 mm ammo (120 mm pen )for BR 3

and for tier/BR 5
Type 97 with Ji-Te Dan

Its 20 cm granade that pens around 220 to 250 mm

5- High cap SMG for Axis there is VZ-38 SMG with 96 round drum but has slow rate of fire(500)

6- about rifle grenades on semis
The germans didn’t have anything like that at least from my research but they put grenades launchers on MKB 42s and STGs and also Mp43s

For soviets I couldn’t find anything on semi rifle but they put grenade launchers on AVS-36s

7- For scoped semi-rifle for Japan I don’t think they will need it as they could get Type 96 and 99 with scope

8- The scoped automatic rifle for Japan is gonna be type 96 and 99 with the scope and for Americans, I hope you like Thompsons cause we gonna get yet an other Thompson

[Naohmcete]

no one ask for bikes, me and few users,parrot,reaper,I can give more but we are quite a few who still we wish them but also with a proper rework

[Willcario]

Wasnt there a scope for the M1 or M2 carbine?

[khtk395]

@Wieloglow

Soviets and Germans have flamethrower tanks (HT-130 and Flammpanzer II) - no need to add more.

Lol it is premium. I think you are just selfish so you don’t want F2P players to have it.

[khtk395]

The Type 90 75mm is far from ideal comparing to other nation. It is basically the same main gun for Chi Nu, Ho Ni I and III which need to aim for certain weak spot to pen a M4A2.

[robihr]

there are no good options for japanese AT guns. they can have type 90 field gun that is marginally better than current 47mm type 1. you can also add paper 57mm type 2 that was cancelled and idk what penetration values would be for it. then there is option of type 92 10cm gun that was made for long range support or you can add imaginary type 5 75mm tank gun (na-to gun) on AT chassis.

that is if we go with japanese options. they could always “import” stuff from germans, or use “captured” US equipment.

[TUSUPOLISI69]

@SzepWaxweiler

5- High cap SMG for Axis there is VZ-38 SMG with 96 round drum but has slow rate of fire(500)

[SzepWaxweiler]

Is that Suomi KP/31 if it is, it is already in the game as premium I was suggesting something for tech tree

[gastanofrizzi]

We have two soumi in the game the stick mag one who is a old gold weapon and the drug mag one currently premium

[TUSUPOLISI69]

@SzepWaxweiler

Is that Suomi KP/31

kp/31 SJR to be exact. So technically same gun but due to compensator slightly different.

@SzepWaxweiler

if it is, it is already in the game as premium

Just like Mg42’s as premium as well as free version

@SzepWaxweiler

I was suggesting something for tech tree

Me too

@gastanofrizzi

We have two soumi in the game the stick mag one who is a old gold weapon and the drug mag one currently premium

its kp26

[gastanofrizzi]

@TUSUPOLISI69

its kp26

I forgetted the name thanks

[khtk395]

@robihr

there are no good options for japanese AT guns. they can have type 90 field gun that is marginally better than current 47mm type 1.

True, but inappropriate to use the word “ideal”

@robihr

you can also add paper 57mm type 2 that was cancelled and idk what penetration values would be for it.

It will have similar penetration as the type 90. (Calculated by the War Thunder pen calculator.)

@robihr

then there is option of type 92 10cm gun that was made for long range support

This is an viable option.

@robihr

or you can add imaginary type 5 75mm tank gun (na-to gun) on AT chassis.

Well, we don’t actually need an AT chassis. Just strip the whole structure from the Na-To and we will have this.

[SzepWaxweiler]

@TUSUPOLISI69

kp/31 SJR to be exact. So technically same gun but due to compensator slightly different.

I see I don’t know about it being added currently there are 2 Finish guns in game and you can get none by from tech tree I think its a far fetched idea but eh I wouldn’t mind getting free KP/31s
other than that there are a lot of high cap SMGs for Germans that DF could add like

@SzepWaxweiler

Lettet Forsøgs

The Lettet Forsøgs was designed by Captain Carl Julius Valemar Berg of the Danish Army in around 1939. It was a modified version of the Finnish Suomi KP/-31 submachine gun, which was produced under license in Denmark, incorporating a number of experimental features. It was never seriously considered for adoption and was built as a prototype only.
( 20 or 36 rounds (Box magazine)/50 rounds (Casket magazine)/40 or 71 rounds (Drum magazine))(900RPM)

@SzepWaxweiler

Madsen m/41

When the Tikkakoski company bought the rights to produce the kp/31 “Suomi” submachine gun in the 1930s, they attempted to make a bunch of export sales, although none were very successful. By the late 30s more countries were interested, but by that time Finnish military needs took precedence. While a few export sales were made during World War Two, the more significant exports were in the forms of licensed production. In particular, Sweden, Switzerland, and Denmark all bought the rights to manufacture Suomis.

In Denmark, this was the Model 1941, produced by both Madsen and Hovea with approval of the German occupying authorities. About 1400 were made between the 1941 and 1943 before the Germans lost confidence in Denmark and disarmed its military. The M1941 is mechanically identical to the standard Finnish kp31 except for
– Front sight protective wings
– Triangular front sling swivel
– Rear sling swivel (instead of a sling bar)
– Aggressive pistol-grip stock design(Ian did a video about this gun)
(20 or 36 rounds (Box magazine)/50 rounds (Casket magazine)/40 or 71 rounds (Drum magazine))(900RPM)

@SzepWaxweiler

Kpist m/37

The gun was accepted to service of Sweden in 1937 there is the manual it seems to be again Sweden trying to copy KP-31 also because of the semi-rim cartirage the magazine is tilted(56 rounds in 4-stack “coffin” box magazine/900RPM)(9x20 mm Browning Long and select fire)

@SzepWaxweiler

Lahti AL-43

The Lahti m/AL-43 was a prototype submachine gun of Finnish origin designed by Aimo Lahti in 1943. It was chambered in the 9x35mm Lahti and later 7.62x35mm Lahti round which were ballistically comparable to the performace of the StG 44

@SzepWaxweiler

Schwarzlose submachine gun

The internal mechanism of this submachine gun was based on the MG 08 machine gun, but scaled down and re-chambered in 9×19mm Parabellum. Mounted on the left side of the receiver is a hatch-opened box designed to hold a row of eight 10-round clips, which would be fed into the receiver one-by-one. Each depleted clip would be ejected from a port on the right side of the receiver. The weapon has a fore grip and an adjustable tangent sight.

The pistol grip of the Schwarzlose submachine gun could mount a shovel attachment, which could double as a monopod.

@SzepWaxweiler

CZ Vz. 38

First requirement for a new submachine gun were drawn up by the MNO (Czechoslovak Ministry of Defense) in 1937, for a weapon firing Czechoslovak-army standard issue 9mm Vz.22 pistol ammunition (which is better known as the 9×17 Browning Short or .380ACP). The approved design appeared late in 1938, officially adopted as “Kulometná pistole vzor 38” (Machine pistol model 38, or KP vz. 38 for short). Designed at the Ceska Zbrojovka Strakonice factory by František Myška, it was a more or less conventional blowback weapon that used 36-round box or 96-round drum magazines. The initial orders were for at least 3,500 of these guns to be delivered to the army, but very few were actually produced before the Nazi occupation. Since the Germans had no use for an SMG firing 9mm Kurz ammunition, its production was quickly terminated and never resumed again. After the war, design of the Vz.38 served as a starting point for slightly more successful CZ 247 submachine gun.

The Vz.38 submachine gun is a simple blowback operated weapon, firing from an open bolt and in full automatic mode only. It was fitted with slim and relatively short wooden stock with a semi-pistol grip. Feed is from detachable magazines, either double-stack, single feed box type or drum type.

( RPM=500/Mag size 36 or 96)

@SzepWaxweiler

ZK-403 (MP SS 42)

The SS wanted an alternative to the MP40 which gave problems at the eastern front.

But since running changes to the MP40 were already planned and the MP SS 42 would use the same magazines, a source of many issues, there was not a lot of need to replace the MP40.

The main requirements of the SS were:
9x19 cartridge use.
Single shot and auto fire modes.
A wooden stock to prevent the stock from freezing to the soldier’s face.
Improved safety feature for cocked and uncocked state.

During a meeting on the 28th of August, 1942, the SS was advised to rethink the idea and await the planned StG.(600 RPM / 30 and drum mag seems to be 64 not sure might be 96 as these were developed of VZ.38 smg which had 96 drum mag)

[TUSUPOLISI69]

@SzepWaxweiler

2 Finish guns in game and you can get none by from tech tree

Theres the problem, used to be finnish premium rifle as well if I recall.

@SzepWaxweiler

I think its a far fetched idea but eh I wouldn’t mind getting free KP/31s

Well it saw quite alot of use on eastern front, much better option than some prototype id say

[SzepWaxweiler]

@TUSUPOLISI69

finnish premium rifle as well if I recall

I think still is there the M/28 rifle