Since there are already Ho Ri I, why not add the Panther F as well

[ErikaKalkbrenner]

i don’t see why not.

but i fear it’s going to be a premium one… or event as well.

[Adamnpee]

Panther world be a great event vehicle. It’s unique but not very different from TT ones.

[SzepWaxweiler]

Its already in editor its not question of will Panther F be added rather when also iirc it was available in close Beta and you could use it

[CaptainSebekel]

Well. I think question is rather if it will be for free and since its a proto, its a 50/50.
And if it is for gold, I dont care about it in terms of balance or need.

[SzepWaxweiler]

@CaptainSebekel

Well. I think question is rather if it will be for free and since its a proto, its a 50/50.

No it has premium in its name in editor which means either it will be a premium or event (Event Tanks & planes have premium name in the editor,too)(Though they could change it )

[Adamnpee]

@SzepWaxweiler

Its already in editor its not question of will Panther F be added

That’s because it was already in game back then.

[Kriegerfaust007]

VK 3002(DB)


A German T-34 knock off, IS WHAT I WOULD ASK For

[GiltBurrito7238]

Personally I don’t think it matters whether or not there is a balance justification or reason for adding something, it should be added regardless

That includes different models, variants, etc.

Not to beat it again but

@GiltBurrito7238

we’re playing a game of the greatest war in all history where technology was pushed to its limits and was the first true modern mechanized war

It’s like the Tiger H1. Some would say what’s the point of having it if we have the Tiger E. I say it’s cool because it’s the first model of Tiger so why not.

The more the merrier. Anything and everything

[_31420124242011]

No, we don’t need German napkinwaffe
I’ll accept prototypes to a degree, but actual napkin shit can stay out

[GiltBurrito7238]

I’ll repeat what I said earlier in that I am a little apprehensive about paper, I mean at least with usual prototypes they were built to some degree but paper is basically entire fictional, and then we get into the nitty gritty of people arguing well using prototypes in the first place is fictional or comparing which pencil drawing should get in. It’s complicated

However I also look at it as WW2 was the greatest war in all of human history and it truly is amazing how technology pushed itself for warfare and it would be cool to be able to play with these things.

I’m sure everyone has a paper tank or plane that they really think is cool. And in a game we could play with what could’ve been.

So I’ll say with paper I’m a…….maybe (leaning towards yes)

[Kriegerfaust007]

Panzerkampfwagen Panther Ausf.F (Sd.Kfz.171) - Tank Encyclopedia

than just go to the g, it had prototypes

[MistrzRozruba]

Japan is one side that does not have a vehicle that could put up an equal fight with the Sherman Jumbo or the M26. Only field and shore guns, and as we know, the Japanese built only one vehicle with a shore gun.

[Adamnpee]

Jumbo is extremely overrated. Very bad gun for it’s BR. And armor is good only against casuals who are not aware of its weakspot.

Panthers or T-34-85 are definitely way better BR4 tanks.

All that DF needs to do si place chi-to or chi-ri on place of chi-nu.

[MistrzRozruba]

It may be overrated, but the Japanese had few guns that could knock out American medium tanks from a distance of more than 300 m. Although considering the size of the islands on which the battles took place and their shape, this should not be a problem.

If bullet vs. armor physics in games were realistic, the game would play differently. The same would happen if, as a result of hits without penetration, damage to installations inside the head, such as hydraulics or electrics, which are sensitive to shocks.

[khtk395]

@Adamnpee

And armor is good only against casuals who are not aware of its weakspot.

Not really, you need to aim for pixel to hit its mg port.

@Adamnpee

All that DF needs to do si place chi-to or chi-ri on place of chi-nu.

Their gun have similar performance as a long barrel panzer4. If long barrel panzer 4 is bad against Jumbo, so will chi-to or chi-ri.

[Adamnpee]

@khtk395

you need to aim for pixel to hit its mg port.

Lmao, definitely not a pixel shot.

@khtk395

Their gun have similar performance as a long barrel panzer4. If long barrel panzer 4 is bad against Jumbo, so will chi-to or chi-ri.

It isn’t bad. It can OHK jumbo very reliably because of explosive filler.
Meanwhile jumbo won’t be.

[khtk395]

@Adamnpee

Lmao, definitely not a pixel shot.

Lol, many players on this forum literally use this to describe jumbo mg port.

@Adamnpee

It isn’t bad. It can OHK jumbo very reliably because of explosive filler.
Meanwhile jumbo won’t be.

Well the problem is to hit it.

[Adamnpee]

No, it’s not xD and just because you say it, it just won’t be true.
Either reduce your sensitivity or train. Because the Jumbo weakspot is literally one of the easiest ones to hit.

[khtk395]

@Adamnpee

No, it’s not xD and just because you say it, it just won’t be true.

I think I know what the game's problem is

KV and Jumbo is so diffrent case, KV Case is more malicious than jumbo pixel hunt. because Jumbo didnt have a APHEBC but has Shot shell. it’s didnt have many fragment and high explosive like KV’s APHEBC. it’s a very important difference. Even if a jumbo’s shell penetrates german tanks, that shells didnt have well killing power it’s only kill one or two tankers. so Panzer can Counter attack after got hit Jumbo’s AP, he can Shoot a hull machine gun or shoot the jumbo’s bottom of the side(but this…

FG-42 ammo nerfed? PLS set 20/60 at least!

First of all, no one in their right mind shoots with the FG in bursts, it’s ineffective. Secondly, I have to aim a few pixels at the jumbo when he’s driving and when I’m moving like that. And the jumbo just firing at the turret is imbalanced. Engineers’ anti-tank guns don’t penetrate the jumbo, but they do penetrate the Pz4 in the forehead. And you will never win a game if the enemy has a bomber and you don’t. Today I won 10 battles in a row with a bomber, scoring 100-150 frags each. FG does no…

If you want Jumbo's armour nerf then need more bullet penetration like German tanks

I would rather say it was a great improvement for any thank with Commanders cupola, and a nerf for all tanks that don’t have it. And that is the way it should be. If they remove map or indicators on maps for tanks that did not have radio operator you get another balancing factor. But now we are mixing apples and oranges. Tanks are not compared by their side armor but by their front armor. Side armor helps, but it is not decisive. Panther is a frontal beast, but is a kitten from side. Can Pz…

Jumbo should be replaced with another tank

i think the problem is in the jumbos that stay in the grey zone and shoot from there,there`s no actual way to flank them and good luck penetrating the front ( please dont mention that 1 tiny pixel on the front, good luck shooting that from a long distance) also idk if its just me but frequently the tank model in long distance gets bugged , you look at the tank and see them looking sideways, and suddenly they shoot you in the face, because while the model shows them looking away they are actual…

Are we ever gonna address aa guns

This is my experience. As an axis normandy main, I spawn in and start fighting for the points, set up rally point on a flank, suicide rush the two jumbos sniping from their safezone, perhaps. Allied player spawns in a P47 or A20 and suicide bombs the open-air capture point, totally clearing all axis players and ai from it while leaving the allied infantry also in the blast zone totally unharmed. I respawn in a tank. I have the IV H, IV J and III M available to me. Functionally they’re identic…

Breaking through a tank is a wonderful thing

Seriously?PZ 4 needs to aim a couple of pixels in the jumbo armor… Of course, after adding of the panther, the Germans in tanks became better. Well, this is nonsense.They are from Latvia, maybe they are Germans?Many germans lived there after the germany wars of conquest.

KV1 obliterates BR 2

Try doing that with a Tiger II that wants to kill you lol. At least Jumbo’s AP sucks. And being able to kill a tank by targeting its pixel weakspots while they can kill you by hitting your tank anywhere is not what I call “balanced” particularly when this is the best gun you have access to in the entire tech tree. And yes everyone knows that Jumbo vs Pz IV H is not balanced, but I guess that german players cannot get over it and instead prefer getting sent to stone age by US planes.

Puma destroys Jumbo

Well In mostly occasion try to aim a pixel or flank is Fire 3 shoot at the barrle but be sure of disable it is better than pray RNG good that the game dont gijin-logick your shoot Expecially if you use a tank who dont field a 7.5cm and you know the enemy tanker is good and your team is dumb an you CANT let him keep fire

Tanking sportsmanship

@gastanofrizzi beat you to it. What’s strange is that the tiger is easy to beat even with the jumbo and it’s inferior canon… the tiger can’t pierce jumbo reliably and when you angle it TO THE RIGHT, the only weak spot jumbo has, expose modules and crewmen much less. The Jumbo cannot make the tiger explode either. But it can knock off it’s 88 in only 2 shots. I often win vs tiger because of this… I knock the barrel, a crew gets out to repair, I knock it again… till they don’t have tools. The…

AT Gunner Squads need a bigger AT gun or a 7th man

Oh god, here goes “just aim for the one non-buggy pixel at greyzone camper” thing again. Wel… Wouldnt that make your whole post pointless then as well? Why bother with better AT guns if you can just spam inf AT weapons?

Lol stop living in your imagination.

@Adamnpee

Because the Jumbo weakspot is literally one of the easiest ones to hit.

Tell me which is the harder one?

[Conscript_Joe]

@Adamnpee

Because the Jumbo weakspot is literally one of the easiest ones to hit.

I wouldn’t say it’s easy to hit, especially at a distance, since the pen area is really small…

But!

It’s DEFINITELY the most known of all weak spots all tanks included, the weak spot reference