Reworking old locations: A walk around Berlin

[ErikaKalkbrenner]

i hope so…

[Bazsi37]

I don’t know if this is still an issue, but i remember that building a rally point here got bots stuck:

[_31420124242011]

Like that’s literally the only issue I’ve noticed so far on the revamped maps
Just them getting stuck in buildings so I figured they just have to relearn the new setups

If that’s the biggest most glaring issue I’d say it came out pretty well

[Sgt_Pepper70]

It’s good to see that the changes are only small obstacles and the map design was not changed since it is one of the most realistic in the game, you should add more details, for example the Hotel Adlon and other more detailed buildings in Pariser Platz, some statues that were in the Tiergarten, some other ruined statues that were in the square in front of the Reichstag, also from the aerial view of squadron selection near the chancellery the aviation ministry (Reichsluftfahrtministerium) is missing and it would be a great detail that such a building Berlin’s iconic landmarks can be seen from a plane or a section of squadrons, even though battles did not take place there.

[Shiivex]

Thank you. I will look into that position.

[VivaldiX96]

Glad you reduced the number of trams, the tanks are bumping into them every 20 meters.
Now let me quote my older post because it was good. Can you please finally make these obstacles more destructible?

@VivaldiX96

You know what could be improved when it comes to environment? These two indestructible abominations:

I get that the steel base for the 88mm cannon is sturdy enough to survive the tank’s weight, but the problem is any tank keeps getting stuck on these, even IS-2, instead of rolling over it - even if my track barely reaches one of the legs, it grabs it and my vehicle turns around instead of advancing. This thing is so infuriating. And even after the cannon is blown off, the part in the center sill sticks up like a nail - it could be made possible to break it off also - it should be torn off from the “+” base where the bolts are holding it. But making the legs passable for a tank is the most needed. Even the steel hedgehogs are much less notorious - if you bump into them, you can just back off without getting one of your tracks caught on them or your vehicle rocking on them back and forth.

These carts - AA power generators if I am correct, (and also the AA searchlights), for goodness sake, they are so frustrating. Again, they are immovable, they block tank shots and even an IS-2 cannot squash them. They should be destructible in the same way the trucks are - ride over them and they flatten. They are the most notorious tank-blocking objects since thery are sometimes too low to see them. I’m not suggesting to remove them - they are an essential feature in the German maps showing the scale of defensive war - but this anti-aircraft equipment should be “nerfed” (into being destructible or more passable at least).

[VivaldiX96]

I did some pictures for a post about them earlier - Reworking old locations - #47 by VivaldiX96

[Dare_Fish]

I’m glad all the maps seem to be getting another pass, but please remember that not every map needs to be so vehicle friendly.

[regismauro]

the bridge and the strasse changes looks worse for balance now it gonna be harder to cross the river from the side area while strasse got infrantry cover remove

[UJustCumsToMe]

Not to mention those indestructible barbed wires surrounding them and the ones piled in debris. My bots got caught on them a lot. Please remove them entirely, they are unnecessary annoyances. @James_Grove

[VivaldiX96]

Yeah, the indestructible barbed wires are a plague of Berlin. They even drained whole HP of one of my bots once. They should at least stop dealing damage and slowing soldiers down after they are flattened.

[emp_zealoth]

Now Moscow time! Please rework most of the maps to add more non-obvious rally points, some maps and objectives are almost impossible to play unless your team is already stacked to hell. Like, the middle part of the sand pit map can be infuriating, considering in average match often you maybe have 2 to maybe 4 people building rallies at best. Also, some maps have grayzones that are way too uneven, either cutting off reasonable approach paths artificially or being outright goofy, like, beging right behind the capzone, meaning flamer and grenade spammers cannot be punished and the people capping can be farmed with nigh impunity

[Veekay45]

Nice.

Is Stalingrad being reworked to not host BR4-5 matches asap?

[抓到你啦_美味小孩]

Can changes be made in the next version regarding AI pathfinding and map occupation location?

Readjust the attack route of AI at Stalingrad Railway Station

As shown in the following figure. [IMG_20231125_213041] In the Battle of Stalingrad Railway Station (Conquest mode, including other modes).All AI (including the AI led by the player) will only choose two blue attack routes when attacking point C, without attempting to cross closer windows. This makes AI on the attack route very vulnerable to direct enemy fire, and due to the long distance, they are also at a disadvantage in occupying time. However, the AI attacking point a is shown in the fo…

Realign the position of the Berlin City Bridge battle zone

Since the official statistics are shown in the figure below. [1100x1100_beach_2_04681216f3a79beb1e26f8f3529359c2] So I think the authorities should also know what happened on the bridge in the city of Berlin, making it difficult to attack the battle zone on this bridge. I hope the officials can make some changes. For example, adjusting the position of the battle zone, as shown in the picture below. [IMG_20231115_005634] Of course, this also means that the bunkers and obstacles in the resu…

[starkwolf]

I used to straight up refuse to play Berlin because the maps were so unpleasant. It looks like a lot of the issues have been addressed though, so hopefully it will be more fun!

[_31420124242011]

Wilhelmstrasse (Conquest) Right tank spawn is now blocked by baked in hedgehogs preventing you from getting tanks or halftracks out of spawn

[GiltBurrito7238]

I disagree with cleaning up the battlefields. It’s immersive to have wrecked vehicles, craters, holes, etc

[mergenthewise]

Thats the BEST thing about urban maps
Tanks cat be ultimate weapon in urban warfare like in open terrain.

[balkian]

I’m not going to criticize the new maps but they could put an exception to the maps since they are going to imitate World of Tanks so one could choose not to play the map that one doesn’t like, such as Stalingrad, which isn’t really that I don’t like it but how do I? They force me to play 7 out of every 10 games on that map. If I could choose not to play it, it would be compensation for the stupid disaster they made by removing the theaters of war.
Apart from the fact that they put maps on BR, it’s so ridiculous that it’s embarrassing.

[Never_Flaccid]

One noticeable AI behavior is that they jitter when they follow a player, they start running then come to an abrupt stop, then repeat the cycle.

This happen when the AI alternate between two behaviors as in “now I follow the leader”, “now I find who shot at me”, “now I follow the leader”, …, “now I follow the leader”.

Please let the devs know to put a time out for certain behavior on the decision tree after it is executed so that this doesn’t happen, or at least happen less frequently.