There are a few guns that have been incorrectly categorized for a long time. They should finally be rectified and placed where they belong
The Federov Avtomat is an automatic rifle. It is not an assault rifle. It is a select fire gun chambered in a rifle cartridge. You may say that it’s chambered in a weak 6.5 Arisaka so it doesn’t matter, but the Type Hei is exactly the same and it’s an automatic rifle. You would never say to change the Type Hei to an assault rifle too because then Japan would lose it’s only high tier rifle when it’s facing T20 Garands.
The Gorov LMG is a machine gun. For no reason they made it a semi-auto rifle
The M2 Carbine is an assault rifle. We have already established that .30 carbine is an intermediate round. The M2A1 Carbine, M44 Hyde, and Thompson .30 are all automatic weapons chambered in .30 and they are all Assault weapons
The Gewehr 43 Kurz is an assault rifle. It uses Stg magazines
The Yazikov SMG is a SMG. It is not a pistol sidearm
The Sawed-off Shotgun that was recently added should be a primary shotgun weapon, currently it’s a side arm
technically only thing stopping Federov being a AR is that it uses 6.5 arisaka that was designed as rifle round.
Nothing else, other than it fits perfectly to intermediate cartridge category.
Its just large pistol round, nowhere even remotely close to intermediate cartidge.
Just because it’s an underpowered rifle cartridge doesn’t make it not a rifle cartridge
False, it was specifically made to be a “light rifle round”/carbine round, pretty much nobody in their right mind actually categorizes it as a pistol cartridge…
Yeah, but then they would have to change the Soviet Yazikov smg as well, as it is also carried as a side arm, and this I wouldn’t be in favor of. I like them both where they are.
We can look at it as there is a difference between a submachine gun and machine pistol/ pistol carbine. (Funny enough that Germany called their smgs machine pistols). A machine pistol/ pistol carbine is literally based on an actual pistol
No, the .30 was the evolution of a rifle bullet. It became intermediary. Just like how the Stg round was an evolution of the original Mauser round.
The M1 Carbine and MP 507 (the proper name of the “VG 1-5”) are fine as Riflemen weapons because Assault has no need for a semi-auto gun, but their automatic relatives should be Assault.
As established with the M2A1, Hyde, and Thompson .30, if it’s automatic and uses .30 it’s an Assault class weapon.
That’s more of an ironic turn of development. The point is still that it was originally a rifle bullet that was shortened to create .30 carbine. Most intermediary rounds were developed from a rifle.
It is more of an exception that .30 carbine was more powerful. But that’s an exception, not the rule.
6.5 is a true rifle round. It may be a little weak compared to other contemporary rifles but it’s still rifle. Just like how .30 is stronger than other intermediaries but still intermediary
Rather the responding to the OP to explain why I don’t like their proposal, I’ll link to three of their threads that are less than 6 months old where I probably already did.
so rifle round that developes to slightly more powerful rifle round is intermediate round, regardless its power is comparable to large pistol cartridges such as .44 magnum but still about twice less power than modern or ww2 era intermediate rounds.
its actually alot closer to 7.62x39 or 7.92 kurz than .30 carbine which is about twice less powerful and barely if at all meets the criteria of intermediate.
Even less criteria for assault rifle.
