Change in the content of the upcoming update

[Pandacorps]

as a content creator dont you also have the responsibility to be a better role model for the community?

[Spiderkingthe10-live]

@EVA_Evo

According to Axis mains

I’m not an axis main, and neither is @OggeKing and @TheSaboteur59 , we did what was right and preserve the uniqueness of silenced weapons.

[GeneralBrus]

@Adamnpee

So I have no clue what you are talking about.

Plus neither of those vehicles have unique mechanics to them.

might remember incorrectly then, pardon me good sir

[Patton1998]

@Dregomz

Once every 3 month, DF will be generous enough to listen to us.

wait but hadn’t DF been replaced by a new UK gaijin team?
around April if I’m not mistaken

[四秒男重生之2miaonan]

@MajorMcDonalds

从本质上讲，是在更快的射速 （AVS-36）、较低的后坐力/更高的准确性（AVT-40 15 发）或更大的弹匣尺寸（AVT-40 20 发）之间进行权衡。

I’m glad you’ve listened to the suggestions of the players, but how do you rate that the prototype C automatic rifle has almost everything?

[TheSaboteur59]

Hell, yeah, boys!! We did it, we managed to get the PPSh-41 (S) removed from the tech tree. We did it. It was all worth it.

Do not add the PPSh-41 (S) to the tech tree

The PPSh-41 (S) should not be included in the tech tree. There is little to no historical evidence of its use, let alone mass deployment. Making it a standard tech-tree weapon would misrepresent its historical obscurity. This weapon would fill no balancing need, and no tactical niche that requires it’s inclusion in the game. Otherwise you’d be adding similar items to other tech trees too, but you’re not. All other suppressed weapons in Enlisted, many of which were more common, are limited to e…

PPSH-41 (S) shouldn't be a TT weapon

Three post. Three post on why the PPSH-41 (S) shouldn’t be in the soviets TT. Three posts were the community discuss their displeasure with it being add as a Tech Tree weapon. And just like you said @MajorMcDonalds Then do better by not adding the PPSH-41 (S) to the Soviet TT and all other silenced weapons you guys are planning on adding.

Make the ppsh-41 (s) premium or event

Silent weapons DON’T BELONG IN TECH TREES, Now as an event squad’s weapon, I’m ok with that, hell even as an premium one instead. BUT Gajin/Darkflow HAD to make Soviet Bias real by giving russia the ONLY SILENT WEAPON you can research . Please Darkflow/Gaijn, use your guy’s single brain cell and DON’T ADD IT TO THE TECH TREE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!

The PPSH-41 (S) has no place in the Soviets TT

I’m once again beg, BEG. To NOT ADD THE PPSH-41 (S) to the Soviets Tech Tree. It makes no sense why they get the ONLY SUPPRESD WEAPON, when comparing to the Germany’s and American/British ones were Event squad and old Battle pass weapons. But instead Gajin/Darkflow HAD TO USE THEIR SINGLE BRAIN CELL AND MAKE BOTH BR5 MORE WORSE AND MAKE SOVIET BIAS REAL. So please for the love of God and everything, DONT ADD THE PPSH-41 (S) TO THE TT BUT INSTEAD A EVENT/PREMIUM

The PPSh-41 (S) should not be added to the Soviet tech tree

INTRODUCTION Hello, fellow forum members, and good day to all. Today, I would like to talk about a new feature in the upcoming update—the PPSh (S)—and why it does not belong in the Soviet tech tree. Why the PPSh 41 (S) does not belong in the tech tree [image] Now I will explain why I believe that the PPSh-41 (S) should not be in the USSR tech tree. Let’s go! That’s not fair. [Это не честно] And I still try to be on the side of justice. Why can the USSR have weapons with silencers in th…

And as I said to all the people who didn’t believe in us back then:

You underestimate the true power of whining.

[Spiderkingthe10-live]

@Dregomz

Germany is now in dire need of Fedorov Avtomat, RD-44, PPSh-41 drum (box too) and NKVD Tommy equivalent at BR5.

How about we slow down and take baby steps, I believe next update germany should get the other Suomi 36 that’s in the games files for thier TT

[EVA_Evo]

Where its lacking? It has higher fire rate, less recoil, quicker reloads, and a bipod?

[Sam_Nameused]

Type Hei has bad sights, unless the bug fixed

[Adamnpee]

@GeneralBrus

FG42 getting the dmg buffed to be on the same level as the other SFR isnt powercreep tho - same as AVT getting a 20 rounder also cant be powercreep, since the other nations also had this. its balance adjustments to be on the same level as other guns - not more than that.

The Soviets already have several unique advantages on BR5.

I’m not comparing just one individual rifle to rifles of other factions.

The AVT 20 is unnecessary power creep in the context of the Soviet faction.

They simply didn’t need it. Since they have several things over other factions that outweigh the slight disadvantage of only having a 15 round SF rifles.

Now they are taking that unique disadvantage away from them.

All factions are going to feel exactly the same.

[Spiderkingthe10-live]

It was an honor working with you @TheSaboteur59 and @OggeKing . Our deeds will be remembered for generations (not really but I like to think so)

[Dregomz]

@Patton1998

wait but hadn’t DF been replaced by a new UK gaijin team?

In reality they were always under umbrella of Gaijin, old team got killed and it’s their IP got taken over by Gaijin UK that is only in name (real Gaijin owns everything), a lot of devs got moved to work on that extraction shooter game, some left company and some got replaced by actual Gaijin Warthunder devs, i think most are at Budapest Gaijin office and some are outsourced. Riga old DF office may no longer exist nobody can confirm that not even CMs.

[四秒男重生之2miaonan]

Do you mean that the AVT40 does not deserve to have a 20-round magazine? Looking at how it compares to a prototype C automatic rifle, it’s nothing but damage. If the USSR-Japan campaign were launched in the future, it is difficult to imagine what the Soviets would use to defeat them? An AVT40 (15) that resembles a burning stick? To be honest, every time I shoot in a row, I’m worried that it will fall apart.

[Pandacorps]

The thing that you left out is damage, even when fully upgraded, its not terrible, its good, but when compared to those of other factions it is a little lacking, also, the high firerate coupled with a 20 round mag size means that its ammo goes by pretty quickly. Bringing its RoF down to levels of the T20 or AVT for example, would make it more useful. I never mentioned recoil or reloads, you just assumed that…bruh

[Dregomz]

DF now it’s time to give Germany this thing:

We both know it’s already in the files and can be shot, Give Germany BR5 smg as they have nothing unless you want to whale or a veteran.

[TheSaboteur59]

Thank you, @Spiderkingthe10-live. At least it’s some kind of victory. It’s just a shame for me that I wasn’t able to save the Gold Orders back then

[Life_burns]

Good news just give more events for USSR so they can have more bramit suppressor smgs I have sadly only 2 i wish I can collect 5 And since you are adding this suppressor squads will be nice to give some events to collect some of this suppressors SMGs for USSR.

[EVA_Evo]

@Pandacorps

The thing that you left out is damage, even when fully upgraded, its not terrible, its good, but when compared to those of other factions it is a little lacking,

It has the same damage though?
The soviet avt rifles have 15.3
The american T20 has 15.3
the FG42 has 15.3

They have the same damage?

[Sam_Nameused]

@四秒男重生之2miaonan

prototype C automatic rifle

well it’s called a Type Hei automatic rifle, some translator issue about Japanese.
Ho-ri would be a bigger problem in USSR-JP campaign I think.

[Patton1998]

@Dregomz

a lot of devs got moved to work on that extraction shooter game, some left company and some got replaced by actual Gaijin Warthunder devs

so more gaijin people than DF at the moment

this could explain the sudden change of direction probably the main responsible for the disastrous 2024 have been replaced because otherwise we would not have had these recent changes and improvements