So i have written ultimate but it might not be here I’m going to put all of the Italian weapons that I and other people posted so you guys if you want can use it for your own Tech-tree and sub-tech-trees there are some interesting stuff if you are looking for new things that haven’t been suggested I only have 3 new guns but without further ado lets start(Its only gonna be guns)
(Are not in any specific order)(Brief or no description )
Lets start with rifles and battle rifles
M1870 Italian Vetterli(Rifle/Short/Cavalry variant in order)(Single shot like Barden II )
M1870/82 Vetterli-Bertoldo(8 round)
The M1870/82 Vetterli-Bertoldo was an Italian magazine-fed conversion of the M1870 Italian Vetterli undertaken by the Regio Arsenale di Brescia and Societa Siderurgica Glisenti from 1882 to 1890.
M1870/87 Vetterli-Vitali
Improved version of the M1870 Italian Vetterli. Features a 4-round box magazine designed by Giuseppi Vitali. Magazine is fed by specialized stripper clips and is pulled out by a pull string mechanism on the top after loading
M1870/90 Vetterli-Ferracciù
Improved version of the M1870 Italian Vetterli. Features a 4-round box magazine designed by a Mr. Ferracciù. Converted from Vetterli-Bertoldo rifles but featured the Ferracciù-designed 4-round magazine.
M1870/87/15 Vetterli-Vitali
improved versions of the M1870/87 Vetterli-Vitali. Features a new 6-round box magazine and is chambered for 6.5×52mm Carcano instead. Both the M1870/87/15 and 16 were manufactured at different plants but were otherwise identical
MBT 1925(6 round)
The MBT 1925 (incorrectly known as the MTB 1925 ) is a prototype Italian bolt-action rifle.
Beretta mod. 1939 with scope
A variant of 1918/30 requested by goverment
Fucile Anticarro Scotti( tear-gas filled 8x99mm)
Breda Mk.II 12.7 mm anti-tank rifle
Brixia Model 35
60mm Lanciabombe
Terni M91 Carcano Semiauto
Pavesi Prototype SVT Copy
Beretta Model 1937(Model 1931 is in game Radio operator premium from Tunisia )
Italian Granade launcher rifles
Breda grenade launcher 1929
Genovesi-Revelli self-loading rifle of 1908( Revelli-Terni)
scotti model x Brescia
I think this was a prototype of Scotti model X but it might be a modification anyway the difference is simple the gas tube is not hidden so this might be a good event squad
Tipo terni model 1921(Semi auto variant )(Fires intermediate cartilage so something like VG1-5)
6 round and 25 round detachable magazine but 25 round one was meant to be fed by strippers
(Normal one with 6 internal mag)
(Detachable mag)
ZK-391(Technically not Italian but was trialed by Italians during 1943)
The ZK-391 is one in a series of Czech developmental semiautomatic rifles designed by Josef Koucký. It was developed initially in 1939 (hence the “39” in the designation), and was tested by the Italian military in 1943. It was ultimately not put into production, but nonetheless is an interesting detail of rifle development – a Czech design made under German occupation for Italian trials .
Maefassi gas-operated conversion of the Mannlicher M.95(8x56mmR)
An Italian officer, Carlos Maefassi, designed this gas-operated, self-loading conversion of the Mannlicher M.95 rifle, while he was stationed in Ethiopia in the late 1930s. The conversion operates on a basic underbarreled gas piston with a long rack to allow the straight-pull bolt to reciprocate. A pistol grip was added to the stock. The Maefassi conversion was tested in about 1940 but never advanced beyond a prototype.
Cei-rigotti(4 models)(SF(selct fire)\
Important read this before
The capacity of the original 6.5mm version was 6 (rifle/carbine), 25 (rifle), and 30 (carbine) (two-row column mag) rounds. All were fixed magazines that were only removable for cleaning (removal of the magazine required removal of the trigger guard). According to surviving documents, they should have been refilled using a 6-round, large 25-round, or two 15-round charger clips, respectively. Later developed 7.65mm models had either a 10-round or 20-round magazine.
(the colored picture is model 1901)
(Naval model of model 1895)
Now for LMGs
Fiat model 1928
was trialed against Breda model.30
Fiat model S 1922
The Breda-SAFAT LMG
modified by the “Folgore” special departments for infantry use
Terni LMG
Isotta Fraschini LMG
SIA Mod. 1938
Experimental Fiat-Revelli Magazine conversion
FIAT 14 EXPERIMENTAL(was taken from Patton1998)
Breda M38
Japan can use their tank MG so why cant italians
with that lets move to SMGs and ARs
Pavesi-Revelli submachine gun
Beretta Automatic Carabine
Obtained by attaching a delay spring to the bolt of an O.V.P., and by changing the firing system to one having a button that permits full-automatic fire.When the button was not kept depressed, the weapon fired in semiautomatic upon normal pull on the trigger.Probably exists only in this prototype.
Automatic variant of model 18/30
Compared with the preceding Mod. 1918/30, of which it is a variant, this arm presents some modifications to the firing system and to the rear sight.It was adopted by some Police units and by the Italian Forestry Service.Can use Beretta 18/30 mags(25 OR 15)(9 mm)
Extra-Light SubMachineGun Beretta
his is an attempt to modernize Beretta Mod18/30 though this was only made as prototype
Mab 38 peototype
MAB 38 (1)
One of the first definitive prototypes of the Mod.MAB 38A, it has two separate triggers. Ejection is upwards; folding-rod bayonet is adapted from Mod.91 short rifles.
Beretta Mod.18 fed from bottom
It appears that this was achieved by simply flipping the receiver (lifted straight from the Villar Perosa SMG) on its head, evidenced by the inverted cocking slot. The gun likely ejects straight upward, and this is probably why it was not preferred over the standard top-feeding model - the rapidly-ejecting bullets would have obstructed the user’s line of sight during firing and therefore defeated the point of placing the mag underneath somewhat.
The Genar PM-470(PM-410? seen both not sure about the name)
The Giandoso (or Genar) PM-470 was a simple blowback-operated SMG produced in the last months of the war in Italy. It was developed as a cheaper alternative to the expensive but reliable Beretta Model 38. The Genar SMG was unsophisticated, with little extravagance and operating on a basic straight-blowback action in the 9mm caliber. However, it did have some unusual features, notably a push safety mechanism on the pistol grip - it was probably the very first SMG to employ this feature. The barrel at first glance appears to be finned, but was actually coiled by a large spring, which served no real purpose. Standard 20, 30, or 40-round Beretta magazines were used.Only about 250 PM-470 submachine guns were turned out and issued to fascist troops before the factory that manufactured it was captured by Italian partisans. After the war, however, there were attempts to revive the design in several variations for export sale, to little success.(600 RPM)(20/30/40 Mag)
Scotti Om42
Armaguerra OG 44
Variara submachine gun
The Variara was produced covertly in Biella for use by left-wing Italian partisans, who were engaged in a guerrilla war against both Mussolini’s government and the German occupying forces. Production began in 1943 and lasted until the end of the war in 1945. It is not known exactly how many of these weapons were made during that time, and few still exist today.
Ortolani submachine gun
The Ortolani is a submachine gun feeding from 40-round detachable box magazines. It is notable for being the first submachine gun to use a roller-delayed blowback action
Isotta Fraschini Mod. Albertini
The Modello Albertini was an Italian submachine gun produced during World War II by Isotta Fraschini .The weapon accepts 25- or 32-round MP 38 and 40 magazines and has an underfolding wireframe shoulder stock. A selector switch is located at the right side of the weapon, allowing the weapon to switch between semi-automatic and fully-automatic fire
MAB 38A P.A.I
A mab 38 with bayonet different composer and different recoil pattern use by Italian african police
Armaguerra Mod. 35
The Armaguerra Mod. 35 was a blowback-operated submachine gun. It had no select-fire capability and fired exclusively in full-auto. The weapon feeds from detachable box magazines feeding from a magazine well located on the right of the weapon.
SOSSO SMG
FIAT-Revelli submachine gun
In December 1916, the Italian Test Commission observed the demonstration of a new weapon known as the Moschetto Automatico Revelli. This gun had been commissioned by the Air Artillery Corps, presumably for use as an automatic carbine by pilots or aerial observers, and was developed jointly by FIAT of Turin and RIV of Pinerolo, with the design work being attributed to Col. Abiel Revelli. The FIAT/Revelli “automatic musket” was essentially a conversion of the twin-barreled Villar Perosa 9mm machine-gun into a single-barreled, shoulder-fired carbine by installing a single Villar Perosa receiver onto a wooden stock and fitting it with a conventional trigger group. Everything about the delayed-blowback action was unchanged and the overhead 25-round magazine feed was retained. The design was improved, however, by the addition of a fire selector switch which gave automatic fire and single shots. Other modifications were entirely external. When the bolt was in the closed position, the bolt handle would sit in a metal cup which it was lifted out of by a retracting lever similar to that of the Villar Perosa’s. The downward-facing ejection port was fitted with a curved case deflector which would redirect the spent casings forward of the firer.
Scotti Naval rifle(2 variants )(AR(assault rifle)
(With and without stock one was used as AA)
The Scotti Naval Model was developed in the early 1930s. It was proposed to the Italian Navy as a potential anti-aircraft weapon for sailors, specifically for targeting low-flying planes that posed a threat to patrol boats. After undergoing brief evaluation, the Scotti Naval rifle was not adopted and development of the weapon ceased. Only a few prototypes were made.
(This is sketch for further development of rifle most likely never left the table as Scotti naval rifle was not adopted)
Tipo terni model 1921 (yes again but as a SF rifle)(fires intermediate cartilage
The cartridge was an experimental 7.35x32mm using the 6.5x55 base dimensions propelling a 8.71 gram bullet to 600 m/s (135 gr at 2000 fps). This gun competed in an Italian trial in May 1923, alongside a 6.5mm carbine and three 9mm Glesenti submachine gun designs. The Terni rifle was the only favored design and was further developed in 1928, but never went beyond the prototype stage.(The rifle in this picture is a semi-auto prototype, but selective-fire models were actually made. and Amazingly, a few of these guns have actually recently been discovered in Ethiopia, so they must have been issued to a limited extent during the Italo-Ethiopian War of 1935. They were made in semi-automatic and selective-fire variations.)(7.35x32mm which I guess is kind of intermediate cartilage so if we ever get select-fire version of this it would be considered an AR also 25-round “strip feed” box magazineDetachable box magazine)
Thats all from me i tried to keep it mostly italian otherwise I could have included panzerfausts,too anyhow if you make a tech-tree or sub-tech-tree with these let me know by tagging me it those topics
