We should bring the German Bf 110 G-2 back to its rightful BR 3

It refers to the Bf 110 variant armed with four rocket launchers.
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In short, the RBS-132 rockets mounted on the Soviet 2M3 are much less powerful than the Allied HVAR rockets.

After unlocking all loadout slots, American players can use the event aircraft FP-5, its premium variant, fighters armed with M8 rockets and the XA-38 at the same time, granting the US overwhelmingly strong air firepower at BR 3.0.

Should the two-rocket armed Fw 190 be lowered to BR 2.0?
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Before these new aircraft were added, the German Bf 110 was nerfed and moved up to BR 4.0. Later, only the Fw 190 fitted with two rockets was lowered back to BR 3.0, yet two rockets are nowhere near enough to fight back. While German planes only get such limited firepower, American aircraft already carry plenty of HVAR rockets, so the Fw 190 would even fit better at BR 2.0. By contrast, most American warplanes can carry four HVAR rockets.

It is time to adjust the balance in favor of German air power. The Bf 110 G-2 deserves to return to BR 3.0. Many players are fed up with fierce Allied airstrikes and have spoken out against the XA-38. Now is the perfect time to bring back German rocket fighters, as BR 3.0 is in great need of the Bf 110 G-2. Certain variants of the Me 410 should also be downgraded to BR 3.0 in the future. We can talk about Soviet equipment balance after all these adjustments are done.

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The US military’s BR 3 has aircraft equipped with HVAR rockets, and only the Hellcat Advanced Squad and the early FP-5 Squad use them. Compared to the XA-38, I find that fewer players are using these squads.
The FW 190 A8 of the German army has an extremely powerful forward firing capability. I don’t think it’s likely to be brought down to BR 2.Regarding BF 110 G2, I agree that it should be moved down to BR 3.
However, the balance of this game is like Schrödinger’s cat - it’s constantly changing, sometimes present and sometimes not. I have given up hope.

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I think the recent fierce opposition is mainly because plenty of players are playing German BR 3 content lately.

So we should push to get the Bf 110 G-2 back to BR 3.
Only a small number of players use the American XA-38 anyway. There are alternatives like the Havoc and Beaufighter sitting at BR 4, leaving BR 3 with hardly any decent strike aircraft left

I dont think the A8 is bad at BR 3. Quad 20mm with plenty of ammo and 2 large rockets do allow you to strafe and do cas quite well.
Granted the dog fighting capabilities are bad for BR 3 but probably still decent for most of BR 2 (outside of spitfires but outside of the event one you wont see them). But to hunt down clueless planes/attackers or when doing a head on it is still great.

All in all it offers way to much for it to be safely moved to BR 2.

After all, we’re talking about German aircraft here.
If it had such firepower, it would have been moved up to BR 5 just like the La-7 long ago. In short, it only carries two rockets, which feels rather awkward for anti-tank missions. New players are very likely to miss with only two shots. I think BR 2 would be the perfect fit, treating it just like a plane with two 250kg bombs.
Axis nations deserve aircraft armed with four 250kg bombs at BR 3 in the future.

There is no reasoning behind DF deciding on planes and the BR they assign them to. Half of them are just at a BR because they just needed to space out the planes over the TT to make certain BRs less empty.
But since DF never botherd to update half of them the TT is all over the place with some planes having arbitrary ±2 BR.

Still waiting for reworked suspended armament changes. Will only be 3 years in a month.

That’s right. When I play Soviet and German teams at BR3, I only take planes just to counter the enemy’s rampant rocket strikes and heavy airstrikes, nothing else.

This also includes British Havocs and Beaufighters. So many aircraft are still poorly balanced.

They always drag things out and beat around the bush instead of getting straight to the point, the whole process is way too slow.

I recall that the HVAP-T round for the Bf 110G-2’s 37mm BK 3.7 cannon received significantly improved armor penetration in a previous update. If I remember correctly, the data shows it has 108mm of penetration at point-blank range. That’s higher than the Yak-9K’s 45mm APHE round. Wouldn’t dropping it to BR 3.0 in its current state be way too OP?

I know German players are quite dissatisfied with the American XA-38 right now, though only a handful of players actually use this aircraft. There are also plenty of planes armed with HVAR rockets from the same era.

Seeing how frustrated German players are with the XA-38, I’ve come up with a smart way to ease the tension. It’s better for all sides to get proper buffs rather than nerfing strong units. You keep flying your XA-38 while we use our Bf 110, so everyone gets to enjoy decent combat power.

After that, we can shift this overall firepower advantage over to Soviet vehicles and see if they can hold up against such firepower. If Soviet equipment turns out too weak to compete, then we can start talking about buffing the Soviet lineup accordingly.
It’s fine, the Yak-9 is still at BR3. Right now Germany is in urgent need of an aircraft that can match America’s powerful airstrike capability. This is no longer just about balancing combat strength; German forces simply lack a proper rocket-equipped plane for BR3.

What’s more, this aircraft was originally placed at BR3 before. I can’t confirm how powerful its armor-piercing rounds truly are, yet its airframe is already quite outdated. Moving it up to BR4 would only make it even less viable, so putting it back at BR3 is clearly the most reasonable choice.

Funny how they still have to fix bugs related to this gun as if those never really were fixed?

First I would first need to see if they actually managed to fix the bugs with the penetration then secondly it is solid shot as opposed to the Yak-9K which was APHE with an extreamly good fuze setting ( doubt this fuze profile is possible irl but no sure about that).

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Even after the supposed buff the G2 37mm still cant pen the 40mm sidearmor of an t-34 on the test range so all its supposed pen is entirely useless. On the BR 2 tanks I was able to somehow pen the damage was rarely enough to fully destroy modules. Even then after 10-20 nosedives into tanks I hadnt gotten a single vehicle kill somehow.

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sounds like skill issue


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The only thing it need is stop using 37mm as leading mark

Yes and no.
There is no skill involved if a shell that is supposed to pen up to 100mm of armor is stoped by the 40mm side armor on an tank. So this isnt a skill issue.

I know a better player could just dive to exploit the even thiner top armor but at that point I could also just use the normal 20mm guns to go hunt engine decks (at which point the 37mm gun stops beeing special) while also allowing me to use a more nimble platform.

That’s a 37mm HVAP against 45mm slope armor
Even PZIV shell will sometime ricochet

Major issues of FWs are their broken flight models, not really their firepower.

There’s already a FW in BR 2 though and in BR 1.

lol you’re delusional if you think it’s any bit effective against a tank in practical use… if anything it’s what you use to combat other planes.

You’d have to be top down to make use of it in which case good luck pulling out after you get accurate hits.

Using this as a reason not to downtier it is extremely disingenuous as whatever the numbers may be yak 9k is on fighter platform with much better maneuverability at the same BR.

Sure, the 110 g2 can destroy infantry quite well and has the option with its cannon to destroy tanks but only an intelligent and or skilled player would be able to do such.

If anything… nerf it back to being borderline useless! All it does is mess with the lead indicator otherwise.

Myself and my opinion i’d say the reason i’m so for this change is the amount of absolute idiots who have this plane equipped from pre merge (along with t-34-85) who are then thrown into high tier lobbies with them caring zero… and then resulting into someone who can’t do jack in the sky with a plane handed to them for free… in lobbies where you normally have to grind out near the end of tree to play… which them being in BR3 would be much more friendly.

And as long as XA 38 stays BR3 then unfortunately that is reason enough to drop it back.

XA38 also has a cannon that’s very good against tanks and requires skill to use with armament way out of its BR.

Those canons are quite pointless against anything other than BR1 and some BR2 vehicles.

It seems all penetrations shown in that parking lot demo hit thin engine covers to trigger fires and explosions. Still can’t breach engine hatches on tanks above BR3, so it’s pretty useless at BR4.

Besides, rockets are mainly for anti-infantry work. The XA-38’s 75mm cannon only fires AP rounds, has slow mid-air reloads, and only skilled players can hit stationary targets reliably.

The XA-38 is quite powerful right now, so Germany deserves a solid counter unit to balance things out. Yes, a proper comeback vehicle. Looking ahead, could the Me 410 also be fitted with rocket ordnance someday?