Yes but that is post/Cold War classification. I feel we should follow WW2 logic
If we had a Cold War era I’d be perfectly fine with every Riflemen having an automatic rifle (and assault rifle) because that was the times
You are right, I meant similar in spirit as a man portable automatic weapon
When we look at the 3 main automatic weapons, smgs deal the least damage, assault rifles a bit more, and automatic rifles with the most. Automatic rifles have the most unique “balancing” because they deal very high damage but are very inaccurate
One thing is sure, I do not think Riflemen should have automatic rifles. I lean more towards Assault, but who knows maybe they could be shared by Assault and MG given their overlapping history. Maybe they could overhaul MGs to make them only able to hipfire (poorly) unless supported because that’s how they’re supposed to work for fire support and you can have AR as a more “assault style” choice being able to ADS
It makes sense, although the game itself tries to brainwash you by including things like the Fedorov and, even more disturbingly, the Lewis Assault Phase rifle as an assault rifle in BR2, which uses the .30-06, just like the BAR. The MKB35, for example, makes more sense as an assault rifle since it uses an intermediate caliber, the same with the MKB42 (M). The only ones that would work as an automatic rifle or carbine are the STG/MKB and the M1 and M2 carbines.
Oh, my bad, I seriously took the “Assault Phase Rifle” thing too literally. That, plus the speculation at the time it came out, but I didn’t actually get the weapon, so I wasn’t sure. But another example would be the Fedorov MG, which is… well, an MG, right? Technically, it’s the same Fedorov but with liquid coolant in the barrel. So what’s the reason for the normal one being listed as an assault rifle/“SMG”
We in reference to the ones complaining about sf have been overreacting from the start… now i’m curious anyone who has been complaining about this will you PLAY (not try it once and blow it off like you’ve done) BRV? No? The jets, bombs, tanks and other weaponry is too much for you? Then i have another question why do you try to dumb it down for those who enjoy the fast paced gameplay?
Argument used widely is that sf having low recoil isn’t realistic… news flash guys neither is BRV.
I’m curious what crusade this crowd has in mind next… it’s most definitely vehicles… trying to chip away at the surface of BRV to give themselves some type of feeling l do not know.
Because BRV either needs to be cut off from the rest of the game or the problems, mainly Jets and SF Rifles, addressed for BRIV to exist. Much is stuck in a BR that massively suffers because of the state BRV is in. Alternatively SF rifles and Jets could’ve been moved to a new BRVI. No matter what the decision something had to happen.
So after trying the new “meta” i got to this conclusion
SF arent dead at all (except for Fg42 II rip) the rest still being usable and controllable
and AVS-36 20 which was doomed since the very beggining
the other rifles still usable and on solid condition, but theres something i noticed now the skill gap between actual skilled players and non skilled ones will be even BIGGER, the developers havent killed the old meta they just made it more “”“skilled”“”, is just addapting eventually anyone who knows how to play will adapt and everything will go back to normal and if more annoying complains appear probably the recoil control will be for sure reduced to 25%
im not gonna deny that now the ARs are very solid for long ranges but SF on bursts still being decent
and after doing some quick calculations i determinated which are the best SF
1- Type Hei auto (almost to no change at all still best out of all SF 30 bullets and bayonet what else u want?)
2- AVT-40-20 (clean sigths, fast reload, but on long range must be used on burst)
3- T20 (As deus said is a automatic M1 garand is good but not as AVT-40-20 for having more dispersion)
4- AVS-36 20 and FG42 II- one word 7 letters G A R B A G E
Yes, the biggest impact is that the Soviet and German SF ，AVT AVS FG become unuseable DF forced us to use assault rifles, but the assault rifles haven’t been buffed much. They should increased the damage and the squad size expanded.
disagree with the squad size that would make the low br meta (specially br 2 unsuffrereable spammy when it comes to smgs and more against soviets since the existence of body armor)
Rhetorical question: Since the ammunition they use is entirely different, how can you classify a fully automatic rifle developed during World War I alongside assault rifles developed in the late stages of World War II?
Even as someone who plays a lot of Japan. The Type Hei was insanely laser like. Blanket nerf is so silly tho I really hope they go back and individually tune the weapons and appropriate amount.
What I find upsetting is the work (being both time and money) people gave for some of these squads and weapons was just devalued. In a market with incredibly overpriced premium squads let me give a alternative and potentially a addition to all this.
Price reduction on premium squads.
Lower the price on some of the older squads giving a gold savings of 5-10% to those who are gold paid and not direct pay.
Lower direct pay squads over 30 in your local currency by 5. 30/35>25/30 etc.
Potentially offer a rebate of some kind that gives gold similar to the events concept below to the previous owners who got it before the change.
These squads have been profitable yes, but as changes are made over time the overall market adjusts and value changes. These are not worth it as it is.
Event squads.
Bring back a box or a event that makes these a bit easier to obtain then running the actual events. Those that have these squads would get 150-250 gold for every squad they own in the event. This gives players a way to gain back some of the value that was lost over time.
Just a hot take, but I know it’s something that they would never do because of the snail.
Edit: just for clarification, the numbers given are adjustable to what ever value needed to be implemented to benefit all parties.
I think it’s time to wrap up the results of the 5-day vote and discussion. Dear helper @Euthymia07-live, please take into account and pass on to the developers that very few people want such drastic changes, and that it might be worth considering premium squads or Golden Order weapons instead, since this will affect a lot of players. Thank you.