They Just Killed BR V - And Turned Paid Weapons Into Trash

Feedback on Upcoming Changes (AR Nerfs & BR V Impact)

Hello Enlisted players,

I’d like to raise a concern about the upcoming changes, especially regarding automatic rifles and their overall impact on BR V gameplay.

  • Reduced the recoil control from 75% to 50% of the following weapons and their variants: AVS-36, AKT-40, AVT-40, Fedorov Avtomat, Fedorov rifle (25), T20E1 rifle, T20 Rifle, FG 42, FG 42 II, Krieghoff FG, Type Hei Automatic rifle, Breda PG (CR).
  • Reduced the recoil control from 70% to 60% of the following weapons: Type Hei LMG, Scotti Naval Rifle, Cei-Rigotti Rifle, Breda PG (Carcano).

:wrench: The Core Issue

Yes, automatic rifles are a topic of discussion in the community. That part is fair.

But instead of actually solving the issue - for example:

  • separating BR brackets
  • improving BR-based balance

we’re getting something else entirely:

A heavy-handed nerf that effectively kills the entire class.

We’ve seen this before:

  • rifle grenades
  • flamethrowers
  • impact grenades

This is not a rebalance - it’s a pattern of overcorrecting.


Weapons That Got Hit (Test Server)

Several weapons are now borderline unusable:

Weapon Status
AVS-36 Dead
FG-42 / FG-42 II Dead
Auto Type Hei Dead
T20 / T20E1 halfdead
Krieghoff Paras Affected
Auto Hei Paras (shield) Affected

:point_right: This also hits premium squads, which is a serious concern.

  • You can’t change their weapons
  • They already have limited ammo

Now they’re just… bad investments.


:balance_scale: Selective Nerfs?

What makes this worse is the inconsistency:

  • Some weapons are nerfed into the ground
  • Others are untouched

Examples:

  • Gorov - not nerfed
  • Body armor - not nerfed

So what exactly is the balancing logic here?


Japan Situation

Let’s be honest - Japan is in a rough spot now.

What do they have left?

  • Tokyo Arsenal SMG
  • Type 100 LMG

That’s… basically it.

Against USSR and Allies, this is a huge gap.


The Analogy

Yes, ARs needed adjustment.

But this feels like:

Fixing a toothache by removing the entire jaw.

Instead of tuning specific parameters, we’re seeing full-on removal of viability.


:moneybag: Paid Content Impact

This is where it gets really questionable.

Premium squads affected:

  • Krieghoff Paras
  • Auto Hei Paras

No vote. No poll. No feedback.

Just changes.

Same with paid weapons:

Weapon Issue
T20E1 Over-nerfed
Breda PG (CR) Why even nerf this?

Let’s be real:

Breda PG is a semi-auto rifle.

  • Not high fire rate 350
  • ~14 damage


(yeah this is CR version but i didnt find breda pg stats, they almost same accept burst fire)
when svt-40 got buff to reload and get high damage.

Why is it even part of this?


Test Range Results

I tested yesterday.

Results:

  • :small_red_triangle_down: 800+ RPM weapons = trash tier
  • :small_red_triangle_down: Fedorov (25 rounds) = forced into semi-auto
  • :balance_scale: Fedorov Avtomat = still usable
  • :white_check_mark: AVT-40 (20) = decent (~660 RPM saves it)

:bar_chart: New Meta (Post-Changes)

Here’s what the new “meta” looks like:

Faction Meta Weapon Notes
USSR AS-44 Best STG-44-style weapon
Germany STG-44 Currently weakest
Japan Type 2A (20) Very underwhelming
USA M2 Carbine / Hyde Strongest overall

Right now, actually using some of these weapons just feels terrible.

  • FG-42
  • AVS-36
  • T20E1
  • Auto Type Hei

Shooting them is simply awful at this point.

The recoil, control, overall usability - it’s all gone.

These weapons are basically throwaway now.

There’s no real reason to pick them over anything else anymore.

:warning: Important:

USA can now:

Equip M2 Carbine on all 9 soldiers

Who else can do that? No one.

Hyde is also:

  • very accurate
  • high fire rate
  • overall extremely strong

:exclamation: Final Question

So I want to ask the community:

  • Are you actually happy with this direction?
  • Are you okay with paid weapons becoming useless? (G43 Kurz says hi)

After this update:

  • A lot of gear will just sit in storage
  • Axis players are pushed toward:
    • premium squads
    • Golden Orders
    • battle pass

while other factions get strong meta weapons through tech tree


:speech_balloon: Closing Thoughts

This doesn’t feel like balance.

It feels like:

selective nerfs + forced meta shift + devaluing player investment

Personally, I’ve already made my conclusions.

If nothing changes after this update, I’m not spending a single cent on this game anymore.

Here’s why:

  • I bought 4× G43 Kurz - now it’s been nerfed into something worse than the STG-44
  • I bought T20E1 for 750 gold each
  • I also invested in Breda PG (CR)

I supported the game.

And in return, I got a pile of…

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Do you think these changes should be reverted / rolled back?
  • Yes, I think so — I’ll lose my premium squads and weapons
  • No, everything is fair
  • I don’t care
0 voters
Do you like it when stuff you paid real money for gets nerfed unilaterally without your input?
  • Yes, I like it - let them do whatever they want
  • No, it makes me not want to buy anything in the future
  • I don’t care
0 voters
Do you think the developers should run in-game polls / surveys before making such big changes to purchased items and squads?
  • Yes, that would be fair
  • No, whatever the developers do is correct
  • I don’t care
0 voters
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The fact that the Gorov wasn’t nerfed was already noted in the News thread although I am currently not sure if or what the Dev response was.

And Body Armour has been brought up repeatedly but the devs refuse to do anything about it and by adding the icon to show it actually does anything further the problem. The repeated response of the devs shows they don’t care and it changes nothing about the adressing of the immense and complete domination of SF Rifles. They either needed to be moved to a new BRVI or nerfed.

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All the AR rifles got nerfed into the ground, but hey, you can still slap on the M2 Carbine and live your best life with 9 of them in the squad.

Gorov is basically straight-up P2W now. They removed the non-veteran base access on BR V. So what’s left? Kyraly 39, MG42-100, and that’s pretty much it.

Fedorov’s assault rifle is still solid — you can actually kill people with it. AS-44 didn’t go anywhere either.

Meanwhile, on BR III, literally the best small arms in the game for USSR are locked behind the tech tree grind.

Just think about it, guys.

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I agree, but with the caveat that mass-produced weapons should be made worse.
But premium and gold weapons shouldn’t be made worse.

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That’s just P2W. Do you want this game to be P2W?

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It’s been like this for a long time already.

Battle Pass, premium, squad and vehicle slots - that’s clearly the direction.

Maybe it’s time to just be honest about it, instead of pretending otherwise. And more importantly, respect the players who supported the project instead of constantly devaluing what they paid for.

Because at this point, I personally don’t see any reason left to keep supporting the game.

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Is this hypocrisy or incompetence? Why wasn’t the Gorov nerfed, despite its unreasonably strong performance characteristics, and the Fedorov machine gun left untouched? And the Krieghov FG was nerfed. This is outrageous! You didn’t nerf the Fedorov machine gun because it’s now on sale? Aren’t you ashamed!?

Why


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Are these on a really Bad state for real?

My clan Said that these still being usable and havent affected meta

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eh idk, I would defo not say enlisted is P2W, defo pay to progress. If u put a premium squad in the hands of a bad player, i can bet u a good player can kill the squad without breaking a sweat

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It really depends, but right now ARs with high fire rate are basically trash.

  • AVT-40 is actually great
  • FG-42s are borderline unplayable
  • T20 now feels like an automatic Garand - you have to fire in short bursts to make it work
  • Breda PG and CR versions both got worse

Krieghoff is back to how it was on release - at lower fire rates it just sways side to side like crazy.

Auto Type Hei used to feel like a laser. Now it jerks all over the place. You can still play it, but it just feels bad.

My main issue is with balance overall, and what some factions actually have available in progression to stay competitive.

And another big question - why are the stats of squads I paid for being changed without my input?

I don’t want to play these squads anymore. If I had known this is how it would end up, I wouldn’t have bought something like the Auto Hei paratroopers in the first place.

That’s pretty much it, my friend. If you want, download the test server and check it yourself.

But yeah… same story as always - instead of adjusting things, they just kill the entire class.

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And the THA? It was the Best of all SF on the Game for being Easy to use and confortable to shoot + Big mag

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So why aren’t they nerfing the weapons that are currently on sale, but they’re nerfing the old premium ones? What’s the logic? Are they afraid of losing money from weapon sales? Then let them nerf the Fedorov machine gun too, if they’ve nerfed the Fedorov assault rifle, Scotty, Breda, Krieghov FG, and the Type Hey machine gun.

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Ah My Bad i Didint saw what u Said abt the THA xd

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auto type hei?
in cqb ±

But if you’re shooting past 50-60 meters, it’s straight-up horrible - the barrel sways all over the place, and the bolt slams so hard you literally can’t see shit anymore.

Didn’t like it at all.

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Lol if they are forcing the Game to be P2w they jsut gonna kill it faster than rigth now

Considering that most ppl is f2p i don’t expect premium squads Will rise

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Most figths are CQB with sf so idc tbh

Now i think whats the meta

Using SF for short range and a bolt action rifle for long range

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So now the new meta is gonna be 9 guys running M2 Carbines that didn’t get touched by the AR nerf at all.

That’s literally gonna be the meta.

And the AVT-40-20 will basically play like an SVT-40 in full-auto mode — decent, but nothing crazy.

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No, and I haven’t been for quite a long time. This is why I keep questioning their business sense.

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The Fedorov machine gun is currently on sale for the event. Note that they’re not nerfing it, even though it’s exactly the same as the Fedorov assault rifle. They’ve nerfed the Scotty Navy. If the Scotty Navy had been nerfed during the sale month, no one would have bought it. It’s hypocritical! This is a screenshot from the test server:

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