The SU-85 - the predecessor of the SU-85M for BR3

So pixel aiming should be GE exclusive problem ?

Id say its more than 1%, the green indicator makes it relatively easy.

Yet, there it is.

Hardly, I just didnt get the answer for what exact reason SU is needed in BR3.

IF there is a reason why it should be BR3, sure.
I just cant figure a single reason.

Well its relatively normal, its rather common that mains of certain factions disagrees in fair share of things.

and the Su85 has many weakspots, making it so even Panzer III J can pearce it. So in terms of similarity to the panzer IV H, it trades a turret for slightly less weakspots, even though there are still many.

Which SU BR3 tanks struggles with GE BR3 tanks ? For what exactly is the SU needed in BR3 ?
With bit of aiming the SU BR3 tanks can deal with even BR4 tanks and unlike J1 vs KV the SU tanks are capable of ohk.

Guys let’s just stop adding iconic vehicles to enlisted cuz tusu said so.

It’s good at with good he which Russia doesn’t have at br 3. Still haven’t seen any evidence you actually have experience with tanks in this game

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Something being “Iconic” is hardly a reason for downtiering.
Applies to KV that caused nothing but issues.

I bet that made sense in your head.

Dunno, atleast I know the weakspots where to aim with BR3 tanks.
While you sure do know every spot where you can do indirect fire with sig and be OP but source trustmebrah.

Did you ran out of crayons already ?

U asked why br 3 needs the Su 85. Not why is it balanced at br 3. Dumbass

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so at BR4 its not iconic ?

Yes good anti tank with good he is something that br 3 Russia lacks. Are u actually this dumb or are you baiting?

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Read what I fucking said instead of continuing to spew shit out your mouth

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And for what exactly is this good AT needed when the BR3 tanks can do the exact same ?

Funny, since you have brought such highly intellectual arguments to conversation.
Well done little timmy well done.

If only you wrote something that could be even remotely considered rational thought.

The 75mm can pen a tiger 2 h guys why do we need stronger at

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just out of curiosity, how often you get against BR5 as br3 ?

Or you could just use both.

I like how you brought up an AT rifle in this very theoretical situation. What are the odds are that you’d seen an AT rifle on BR 5, let alone on BR 3? it’s not zero but i’d say that from my experience, i only see them like, 1 out of 20 games when some clueless player brought it up on high BR and try to hit KT with it. What’s even more hilarious is that if it’s BR 2, then you’d see more BR 1 players with AT rifles(Since these are all BR 1 now)than Sturmpanzer being on BR 3. Doesn’t that make Sturmpanzer 2 more Survival on high BR then? Are you actually trying to do a bad faith argument here? Because it just feels like… illogical and actually trying to downplay so hard on the effectiveness of Sturmpanzer 2 to me.

I think i had only shot by an infantry like 2-3 times thru the openings on my Sturmpanzer 2 after numerous game i’ve played and those were when i tried my luck and drove closer to the cap point more than i should have. Are you trying to say this is a common occurrence just to die on the hill which is that “Sturmpanzer 2 is shit”?

See this is the problem with the forum. Rage baiting morons like tusu get encouraged by the system instead of actual good takes since activity is encouraged over player consensus

Tusu is rewarded for being a moron. Not ignored

Applies to premium users.

Point being that even the worst AT weapons can take it out.
From any direction.

Not sure how more advanced HE spam & weapons make sturm more survivable in high BR.

You dont even need to snipe thru openings, the “gunner” crew sits higher than the front plate.
Sure, your driver is relatively save but cant do much if rest of your crew is dead.

You can almost touch the irony of this.

with a bot of aiming the J1 also can deal with KV. Besodes, why are you argumenting on ‘is not needed’? Who cares? What if I want to be a soviet Stug 3 G, huh? What then?

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What irony. Everyone’s calling you a moron here and the vote shows ur stance is the small minority.

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But same bots cant magically deal with BR4 tanks with SU BR3 tanks ?
Quite controversial take.

There indeed should be a reason for BR4 gun to appear on BR3.

Go make your topic about it.

My sophisticated guess is that you will learn it in few years, its explained usually at high school.

Not really, just you. And ironicly, im the onlyone even answering to you.

That hardly matters.