The BR5 in Germany needs to be strengthened

there was parity in shooting now and then, but thetanks differs very much, it’s stupid to deny it, however, I understand who I’m talking to)

Seeing your comments on other posts where you portray your faction as the perpetrator makes your Soviet bias clear :wink:

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I don’t have any particular preferences regarding the game, but I have concerns about the overall balance.

but if it’s convenient for you to consider me the mainer of the USSR, let it be, I’ll even be proud of it)

We were talking about br2 and the marder

Y’all have been assuming a lot of things about my statements. Yes, all other nations have been power crept as well. Although i remember it really really starting on the german side for smgs (low tier). U.S. didn’t get the br tommy and viper till after germany and japan got a bunch of high rpm smgs. Russia was the only nation with high fire rate, and was the exception, now it’s pretty much the rule. I’m simply pointing out germany is keeping up with power creep, not falling behind.

The difference between f80 and 262 is like a half a second for half a turn. That’s pretty equivalent, and i will die on the hill of the f80 having a harder time pointing it’s nose down.

The f80 literally does not act the same in the practice range. It flys exceptionally smooth there, where as in real matches it has a ton of turbulence. The flying is not one to one for some reason. I was quite upset about this when buying it because it did not act the same.

Not when F-80 starting to use flaps it’s way better than what you described. 262 even when flaps deployed will never be able to win the dogfight against F-80. That’s just how it is.

I don’t have this issue. Literally you are the first and only one i have seen so far claiming that F-80 acts differently in the practice mode and the squad mode. Unless you are playing in like 400-500 pings or something but then that’s your connection problem, not F-80.

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Then you are remembering it wrong. USMC Thompson and UD M42 were available even before the merge and BR system implemented.

Okay, you’re right about this, was mainly talking about all the free gear, as premmy stuff is hardly owned in any significant numbers. I also tend to forget about it’s existence because i haven’t played with it in over a year’s time. I shelved it because of how strong it is and got boring to use it, I will admit the udm is cancer for br2, but not sure if it’s really br3 material with the 20rnd mags. I still use the unsc squad because it’s a lot of fun and more balanced now with all the other strong br2 stuff that’s been added.

I have pretty good internet, definitely not the best as it’s no where near 1 gig speeds. My xbox (x series) is also hard wired to the router. I’ll try to get a video of it sometime. It doesn’t feel like lag or connection issues. It literally looks and feels like turbulence in real life. Cockpit and reticle bounce up and down in matches, where as in practice mode there’s zero bouncing up and down.

Update: it’s been a while since I’ve used the f80. Took it out today, and the bouncing seemed to of not been noticeable now. Makes me think maybe it was patched or fixed when they updated planes while back. Using it though without a doubt confirmed it’s much slower to point it’s nose downward compared to the 262. The 262 can enter a dive almost twice as fast if not more. The f80 also seems to become unresponsive quite often in a turn, as i believe yui pointed out. This affects the turn time and a dog fight greatly, where as i keep full control of the 262 at all times. I still believe they are pretty equal in maneuverability. Given the pros and cons of each.

well, I’ll be the second, the training ground and the real battle are a bit different, here I agree with the person above
the range is not a full-fledged indicator of reliability, this is one side of the coin, which is basic, an expanded opinion is formed in combat when you get into different situations, And I will say this, I am not a professional pilot in this game, but even I have to admit that the meteor was better than the f80, both in terms of weapons and performance, now f80 is a scam that gives the illusion of power
Now it makes sense as an airplane with 2×1000fn bombs, if these bombs had not been taken from Meteor, then it would have been a good No. 2 in the aircraft rotation.

regarding the me262, I’ll say this, the plane is not bad, the plane of the first strike, when you catch and catch up on a straight line, you can engage in battle with other planes, taking into account that it is a bomber, fighters can also be replayed, but skills are needed.
One of the main advantages is the armament of a 30mm cannon, which tears apart everything it sees in the air.
in the end, you don’t have to take the ME262 if you want to win, you can take the Zwiling Or the k4, these two aircraft are also strong and competitive by 5 br

There’s zero performance differences between the practice mode and the squad mode for guns/vehicles. If you think there’s a difference then either you are coping or there’s some other factors involved like your connection being bad.

What are you even talking about? Are you trying to saying that F-80 is weak?

No it does not make any sense. Especially when it’s jet and not even classified as an attacker. Everyone knows that it’s clearly BS except the people wants to defend the obvious BS so hard. I have flown all jets in the game and compared to F-80, all other jets are not even close to the overall performance of F-80.

It is serviceable since it’s a jet but that’s it.

You conveniently left out the fact that it has trash muzzle velocity thus making it extremely hard to hit enemy planes. Idk you may have noticed this but the lead reticle gets ridiculous when you trying to hit enemy airplanes, especially the jets. Combined with the fact that 262 doesn’t have a good turn ratio makes it even worse to actually hit maneuvering jets like Meteor or F-80. All you have to do is just don’t participate in head-on attack from 262 and then 262 is just good as dead meat.

30mm is good at strafing ground targets but i don’t think it’s better than literally having one more 500 kg bomb.

it’s not for nothing that we say that the USA is about airplanes in our game, so it’s expected that any planes will be Better than the rest, but against the background of the meteor f80, it’s not so good, only bombs make sense to think about taking it into the setup, but as I said, if you wait for the result, then it’s a scam, there’s a meteor which is better in almost everything, there are fewer bombs, well, okay, the main thing is that the sky clears, thanks already)

As I said, against the background of the meteor, yes it is weak

it seems to be a well-known fact, or do you need to prescribe everything as a child?


Axis BR5 have no issue

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all the problems are in the players)

Having a higher win rate doesnt necessarily relate to the faction having better equipment though.
At BR V, it could as well just be Japan carrying Axis by making veterans avoid playing Allies or USSR at BR IV-V.

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I dunno man, the f80s 50cals seemed to only tickle the 262 now. You can’t deny the strength of a 30mm round in plane combat. You talk about the low velocity, but it only takes 1. It’s something you can learn and anticipate for. It comes with enough ammo to put out a continuous spray starting before the lead indicator letting the enemy plane fly into your shells while they turn

Well they can unstack some of high br planes for Japan and Germany to more pilots since all German high BR ground attackers are stacked on the same pilot and all Japanese fighters also are stacked on the same pilot.

The opposite is true too. Germany br4 is absolutely cracked, but yet it’s less than 50%. Kind of surprising honestly