Squadron Late Sturmgruppe of Volksgrenadier and Panzergrenadier 44-45

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We are now very close to the date of the Battle of the Bulge So a reward for an EVENT would be something amazing for this bloody battle between the Wehrmacht against the Allies Where I will propose a configuration widely used by the different divisions of the different German units of A Late Elite Assault Group of '44-'45 In both the Wehrmacht Volksgrenadier,Panzergrenadier, Fallschirmjäger

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The 9-soldier squadron configuration with the STG44 and Panzerfaust was devastating in the Ardennes, where it inflicted enormous casualties on the Allies.,Next, I will mention divisions from different units that used this configuration in their infantry squadrons.

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The Divisions 12, 18, 26, 62, 79, 212, 276, 277, 326, 352 and 560 From left to right, both top and bottom rows They used the configuration KStN 131v/131c V Sturmzug vom 1.11.1944

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The Panzergrenadiers of the Panzer-Lehr Division, 2nd Panzer Division, 116th Panzer Division Their Panzergrenadiers used the configuration KStN 1114c/a (gp) Sturm vom 1.11.1944

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These are the divisions that used the 9-man configuration with STG44 and Panzerfaust in the Battle of the Bulge.
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The squads would consist of 9 soldiers with STG44s and 8 with Panzerfausts, except for the combat engineer or a machine gunner if added as an option to the squad.

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I was thinking of making this squad more special with an experimental 60-round magazine, but I couldn’t find any pictures. Another option could be a grenade launcher for the STG44. If it’s added to make it more special

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Before this, I want to remind those who think this is excessive that I want to show them this.
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I highly doubt I can field that many infantry, APC, and Premium squads with T20s and SVTs equipped with two-shot kill weapons.I don’t think it will be heavier than a single squad that will be an EVENT reward.

So, putting that aside, I hope the publication can become a reality.

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What should the squadron be made up of?

  • 9 soldiers with STG44s and 8 with Panzerfausts
  • 8 soldiers with STG44s and a machine gunner with 7 soldiers with Panzerfausts
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Cool, but this would be so increadibly OP.

Like give a shity improvised volksturm bolt action to a squad with eight panzerfausts and even that would be a bit crazy. Then adding a machinegunner as well …

This is just not very realistic I am sorry to say.

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But if the publication is about the use of this configuration in the Ardennes…

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He is talking about in game.

Having a squad of 8 dudes spamming panzerfausts everywhere whereas standard AT squad has only 3 is kinda unrealistic to ever happen in game.

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We’re talking about an EVENT squad Even though we’re strict about the gameplay and the authenticity of the Factions, my suggestion is still reasonable.I don’t think Meteor, who didn’t see Combat, should be in the game. But having more soldiers with STG44s in a squad is bad.It doesn’t make sense You might not like the German faction, but the suggestion itself is good and offers a good reward for a potential event.

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How is that related to the suggestion ? And how even are you able to say that ? Germany is my most played faction. Though as oppose to you I play every faction in the game.

That’s completly unrelated. And it’s false, the Meteor did see combat, intercepting lots of V1 over Britain.

Not really. If historical authenticity is a must, then why don’t we have 12 men squad for the US marines or 10 men squad full of PPS and PPsH for the soviets ?

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the fact that you had to make a repost is all the more hilarious.

find us an event squad with that configuration lol.

i’ll spare you the trouble.
it doesn’t exist because it’s not balanced.

ugh… hello?

assault engineers squad with 6 STG troops?
but, any assault engineers for all factions does precisely just that.

you just want more and more to make your own main faction stronger while offering 0 alternatives to the others.

kinda says alot.

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I have no objection to that; if they have it, they should include it as long as it has been used.

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It might be the first squad, so I don’t see what your problem is with this.

You said it, engineers, but it’s the opposite of what I suggested in the post.

You’re talking about the same people who asked for T20, T44, 100. But if someone from the German faction does it, is that wrong?I’m simply asking for things that were actually used in combat, just like everyone else’s for their Factions. This whole balance thing wasn’t and shouldn’t be important in a game that doesn’t sell you anything. The same as COD and Battlefield

I really don’t need to make enemies of people on the forum. But if Faction A is strong in section B, unlike Faction B, which isn’t strong in section B but is strong in section A, then why is Faction A strong in section B?Faction A That’s another issue, and it’s something real that happened in WW2 and in a game that sold you the idea since 2020, and that has changed because the other Factions are complaining.

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Using that logic, the IS-3 should also be included because it paraded in Berlin. It simply didn’t see combat, just like the P-80.

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These days with 9 men Hei Auto LMGs or even AVT40 20s, is Stg44 considered super strong as a 8 man squad?

Its a historical and realistic load out; ur can of worms is, if it opens door to a 12 man PPsh41 squad? Crazy 16 man bolt action squads? Then we start getting very assymetrical.

I think personally stuff like this is better for historical scenarios/ events. Or if you are going this way, game deff becomes harder to balance ( since squad loadouts now matter even more than new weapon types)

Im loth to vote yes/ no on it. If yes we also need to open historical squad loadouts for other nations. I like the idea, but it needs to be comprehensive. Based on current sitrep, where they standardize even soldier perks I think its unlikely - but events would be a great place for it.

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Meteor & such were added for balance, this is the exact opposite

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there’s no such thing as first time squad, especially for an event one.

this shit is straight up OP.

there’s no balance.

good luck fighting any of similar squads.

matter of fact, all but 3 or 4 squads follow standard squad compositions ( except HW squads. but those are balanced because there are fewer soldiers )

you said;

yeah, it doesn’t make sense. because you can already have a 6 man squad stg.

worse, 5.

you don’t need more auto that that.

yes.

it is wrong considering you’re comparing potatoes with carrots for your own personal benefits.

you see, the allies got protos and stuff that you do not like for the sake of balance.

given that some of such nations lacked similar items or never produced them as they had a different idea/tactic/necessity.

you on the other hand, are trying to make up a squad for your own good and using the excuse of historical accuracy.

when in this game, doesn’t count for nothing.
doesn’t even try.

that’s irrelevant without actual comparisons.

while some smgs were brought down or up of br compared to the counterpart that, is a clear mistake from the developers no denying that.

but actively make the balance worse for no reason other than intrusive thoughts, that’s not fine.
even less when you didn’t even bothered to link alternatives for others factions.
or made a singular attempt either. and we both know your history as far as balance goes.

but for you, to sit here and say that 9 men stg is balanced, with AT capabilities

you’re out of your mind.

want an instant win button too ?
while you are at it

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This has never been the design philosophy of this game and never will be. What was and wasn’t used simply doesn’t matter. Otherwise we would get nuclear bombs for USA and Berlin would be bunch of children and old guys with antique rifles against full might of the red army

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I don’t think that having a squad of 9 soldier with STG is problematic. Something like 7 riflemen, 1 engineer and one AT gunner (similar set up to the chinese event squad) all with STG would be ok to me.

You can already do something similar with the US by using a 9 men riflemen squad with M2c. However this is not really good because the T20 exists.SF rifle are just so much better .

My issue is to have a 9 man AT gunner squad. That"s incredibly unbalanced.

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Even so, they inflicted many casualties on the “mighty red army”

Each faction is unique and has strengths and weaknesses. It doesn’t have to be the same in terms of weapons. If they have a similar squad, then add them. But only if they’ve seen combat, because artificial balance only ruins the WW2 game.

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This is what makes the squad unique, along with the number of soldiers and available STG44s. It will also be an EVENT squad

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That barely matters now. Every nation gets counters for everything even if it isn’t historical.

That has never been a criteria. Over half of the equipment we have has never been used in combat.

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A criterion that has changed due to the Allied and Soviet Factions community; I remember that it wasn’t like this and that it was authentic where this game wasn’t going to be a War Thunder and it’s becoming less and less

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Simply not true. Even back in the pre merge days we had panzer 3b and panzer 4f2 in moscow, gewehr 41 in moscow, mkb 42h in stalingrad, ww1 berettas in normandy etc. Blaming just the allied playerbase is ignorant