Major cavoite being the marines mostly still using 1903s the whole way through the war but they also pretty commonly use the M1 Carbine.
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sure, against tanks which P47 conveniently also has.
You got them both in P47.
yes Suspended Armament:14-16 Panzerblitz 2 rockets and a 500kg bomb
vs 250kg p47 bomb
the p47 carries a 500lb or 250 kg bomb
vs
a 500kg or 1000lb bomb
8 12.5mm vs
2 13mm
2 20mm
2 30mm
yep looks balanced to an attacker that should be weaker not stronger than the p47
The P-47 is already very handicapped in game it could carry 2x 1000lb 1x 500lb and 10x HVARS with weight leftover.
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Even then there’s no reason to use it over the P-80 and Meteor they are better in every way.
So even with less than what it could carry its still by miles better anything than GE can wield.
So if this is handicapped what exactly the GE is ?
Of those nearly 500, almost ALL saw combat. But of the 25 Allies, only 1 saw combat.
I’m sorry, but FG42 I and II saw combat until the fall of Berlin, something the T20 didn’t do in any battle.However much you may hate the German carbine, it doesn’t negate the fact of its participation, nor the Allied and Soviet lives it took.
Numbers again. But I already mentioned this to you.
You only talk about numbers when it suits you, as long as there’s a benefit for the Allies. But when it’s about the Germans, you complain.You only seek Allied supremacy in ALL The sections
I’m sorry, but those 7k-9k FG42s plus the vehicles are a huge amount of German weaponry. We’re not talking about the Number 0 Allied Prototypes that didn’t see combat in WW2
But he doesn’t want to understand and accept that.
Yes, of course, the 7k-9k FG42s that saw combat and were produced in WW2 are certainly different from the 0 T20s.
You’re still being stubborn about that, and I’ve told you several times. I’ll do it one more time.
The Panzeblitz 2 Rocket has the power of a fragmentation grenade, which obviously needs to hit the infantry (tank) directly to kill it. But it doesn’t have enough explosive to do significant aerial damage due to a lack of explosives. And the same applies to tanks (infantry).Rockets are not like HVARs or Wfgr 210mm rockets They’re like a HEAT fragmentation grenade
Like you when you refer to the FW 190 F-9 and think that by adding Germany it will automatically have air supremacy in the game and surpass the Allies When that is not the case
Germany doesn’t have any planes with bombs and rockets like the Allies in its arsenal, but now that one is being requested, you complain.But when the Allies didn’t have 76mm Jumbos, Pershings, Super Pershings, captured Ofenrohrs, and M9 Projectile Improvements You said NOTHING about fighting the German tanks When the Allies had total CAS supremacy without German opposition And with the addition of the Meteor and P-80, the increase is even greater.If there were a percentage, the result would be this, with a total of 95% Allied air superiority.Since 2021, Germany, which has had to withstand rockets and bombs from the Allies, has only received the Me 262, but it is overshadowed by the Meteor and P-80.
The F-9 is necessary for Germany to have a counterattack against the P-47 and to be something “close” to it. Unlike your Pershing with more armor when they already have an equivalent of the Panther, Tiger 1 and 2
Sure, removing the only Assault Rifle from WW2 just because there isn’t another one But that weapon was used in large quantities, and specialized squads were created to train it.Both the Wehrmacht with its Volksgrenadiers, Sturmuzg assault squadrons, and Panzergrenadiers, and the Waffen-SS did the same with their Panzergrenadiers and assault squadrons, as well as the Fallschirmjäger.They had squadrons with the STG44I even made a post about it as an event squad
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Well having a flight model that doesnt actively sabotage you is a huge upside…
Also
None of those guns will synergise with each other when dogfighting since everyone has diffrent speed.
So you eighter use the 2 20mm gun or the 30mm gun to dogfight but almost never both since velocity is so diffrent that the lead is always off for the othere and meanwhile the indicator will be stuck for your shity 13mm guns because ofcourse it is.
Meanwhile the 47 has always 8 50cals with perfect indicator accuracy against your 2 20mm guns with a somewhat inacurrate indicator or a completely useless indicator for the 30mm guns…
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Even with the F-9’s maximum heavy weapons capacity, it’s not even comparable. It’s not even close to surpassing the P-47. But he stubbornly insists the F-9 is better. When Panzerblitz 2s don’t work like HVARs
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my point is not that the t20 is more deserving than the fg42 of being in the game or the tech tree its that neither deserve that
7k is the production numbers meaning 100 percent of the guns would have had to leave the factor, reach units and those units reach the front line wishful thinking is not even close to what its is
same thing for the tiger 2 500 tiger 2s across various makes and models that would have had to be made, survived allied bombing attacks on trains, marshaling yard and make it to the front line again bullshit
i never said the t20 needs or deserves to be in the game
i am saying you either put the bar an inch above the ground letting both guns in the tech tree
or at knee level removing t he t20 from the game and the fg42 from the tech tree
it does not matter if the paratroopers served on the ground if there an elite unit the fg42 should not be in the tech tree
neither should either johnson but that is another matter
as long as the elite paratrooper fg42 is in the tech tree the t20 needs to be as well
thats my point not that prototypes should be in the tech tree they should not
but as long as weapons like the kiraly 39m and fg42 are they are needed
and no the fg42 has not earned its place in the tech tree
a us soldiers is more likely to get killed by an std then an fg42
Oh, boohoo the allies have better CAS than us Nerf! nerf! please nerf I beg! even though we have oppressive armor and man portable AT weapons when you make the only way to kill you putting a warhead on your forehead don’t cry when you get a warhead firmly planted on your forehead.
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What kind of nerf is it to ask a proper counter ?
Did someone even mention nerfing murrican cas ?
All this while, the Murrican mains definitely didnt whine for pershing,öfenförörör,t20,hyde.
Had, pershing is more than capable to penetrate it now.
Even frontally.
And what good does these AT weapons do against complete air supremacy ?
Didnt the murrica whine the öfenrörörö ?
Hell, if GE even had a old quad 20 as AA gun you would have a point, but unfortunately nothing has been granted to GE to compete with murrican air supremacy.
While, murrica indeed did receive the pershings and öfeförörö.
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Even with the F-9’s maximum heavy weapons capacity, it’s not even comparable. It’s not even close to surpassing the P-47. But he stubbornly insists the F-9 is better. When Panzerblitz 2s don’t work like HVARs
wait so the cannons wont be allowed to shoot tanks and infantry, thank god
as those would be far better then the 12mms at
and wow youre not using a 500kg bomb vs a 250kg bomb
Wow i was wrong that plane would be weaker than the p47 at ground attack
It takes quite a bit effort to do cas with FW’s effectively. Theres reason why you dont see D12’s, ever.
Which, you probably would know if you didnt main murrica only.
yep if you look through my post i have never suggested anything but us weapons
yep the fact 90% i choose join a ny factions means some how i only play us
that i have completed all 4 tech tree yep american main
tbh, rarely see you do anything else than whine how murrica needs this and that and when ever someone else requests something you are against it.
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I’m sorry, but both the FG42 and the Tiger 2 earned their place on the TT list by having seen combat in large numbers, having fought in major battles, and having taken the lives of Allied soldiers And Soviets All this was not done by your T20 and your Pershing and Jumbo tanks, which caused fewer casualties than the 80 Ferdinand/Elephant tanks that wreaked havoc with almost 800 tanks destroyed and other enemies eliminated.
One is a real weapon that was used in combat and was the inspiration for the mythical M60 in the Vietnam War, unlike the T20, which had zero participation in WW2.
Even so, they died because of the FG42, something the T20 did not do.
The 2 MG 131 are not the same as the 8 MG 12.7 Cal 50Two 20mm cannons are powerful, but they are only effective against aircraft and light vehicles like APCs.And the 30mm MK 108 is only effective against infantry, APCs, light and medium tanks with low armor.Like the Crusader, but not against Sherman, T-34, etc.
The 500kg bomb, along with the MK 108, compensates for the reduced effectiveness of the Panzerblitz 2 rockets due to their low TNT levels, and even then it is inferior to the P-47.
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and at the br if they were suggested for the allies would see that as a side grade or an upgrade
i have supported many ax iss germ/italyt japan suggestions that were not power creep
show me one suggestion that would not have been the strongest in that german br, and thus not a powercreep compared to the existing us/uk allied counterpart. that is show a suggestion that is a side grade that i opposed
example moving the g43 to br3 without changes or nerfs a straight up power creep
like the pump shotgun rifle thing you currently are requesting for BR1 ?
I can even name German vehicles and equipment I like using Me-262 A-1/U4 because goofy big autocannon on meh jet fighter bomber Tiger 1 H Panther A Stug III G MG-42 MP-40(I used this clear up to rank 5 it’s just that good it’s a laser beam) FG-42.
ok thats uk you make my scatter brain look ocd by comparison
its a 5 round pump action rifle
meaning the rof would be far closer to the 1903 spring field than the 1895 winchester
it cant be loaded by a stripper clip but must be fed one at a time
so yes br1
its only upside is you dont have to find the target again after each round