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That’s no excuse, and even with that 185mm of armor on the turret it can be penetrated by the APDS of the 17lb gun, the APCR of the 90mm Pershing, or by the 90mm gun of the Super Pershing without the APCR.It can be penetrated by the captured Ofenrohr with 200mm of penetration and by the Panzerfaust 100 with 220mm of penetration. If it had extra armor, it could survive like the Pershing, which only the Jagdtiger’s 128mm can penetrate.And it’s not in the game.

And thanks to the extra armor, it can SURVIVE everything I mentioned, unlike the Tiger 2H. And I’ll mention again that the Tiger 1E is BR V Just like the Pershing

I’m sorry, but the MP40, which is the equivalent of the Thompson, is inferior to any variant of the Thompson. The STG44 cannot be compared because it is an assault rifle; it’s like comparing an MG42 to a Thompson.

It will compensate for the LACK OF TNT IN THE PANZEBLITZ 2

Even with those 10 rockets, they are more powerful than the Panzerblitz and can destroy tanks and infantry alike.NO CAN FOR LACK OF TNT

I didn’t know those assault rifles were manufactured and used in combat during WW2.

It has a better capacity for survival

That’s no longer Germany’s problem, but the USA’s, for making glass cannons with low penetration compared to the British 17lb gun.

How the 75/76 Jumbo and Pershing

The skill problem of allied players is not knowing how to target the weak points of the enemy tank in front of them. German players DO it I remind you that the Germans against the Jumbo had to fire at the Port MG with their Panzer IV J/H to destroy the Jumbo that was To the very end of the beach Before the Panther arrivedReturning to the topic of the Panther’s 75mm and the Tiger 2H’s 88mm, they should still target the WEAK ZONES that lack armor to destroy it.And the German players DO But the Allies cannot do so yet WHEN The Tiger 2H NO HAS ARMOR EXTRA

Without TNT they’re useless, and the Panzeblitz lacks this.

It doesn’t have the range or rate of fire of the Ian MG131, and there are only two of them. But the P-47 is still better.

The same as your Pershing with more armor plating that never saw combat or was used in WW2

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Never saw combat and never built are not the same category
No it did not go used in combat in any numbers like the 26e5 is not belong with the ho-ri
Cough Italian 100 amar rifle no combat use
Below that paper blue prints, prototypes in the same category
Sorry but if that’s a case the 600 thousand grease guns belongs in a higher category then something like the kiraly 39m
I was talking about you wining about the p47 rocket not the f9
The p47 is a worse attack and a moderate well fighter
You harp on about the gunshield one strong point
Then make fun for or pls no runding weak points
The sp outside side the gun shield is nothing but a weak point to anything 75mm and above
Pershing is br5 what does What have to do with down tier
Wait the 76mm can pen 150mm at any angle wow if 5 are true respect oh wait it’s br5 as well
Because before the hyde the Thompson was the only b5 assaulter I am comparing br5 assault weapons
Yeah thin skinned tank destroyer when comparing tank at the same bar is all you can do
That there over tiered is the fault if the game
There fine in warthunder as are turret less axis td but n enlisted There both over tiered
You said history you did not say ww2
The us did not need more
But German cats were often outnumbered
Ran out of fuel
Faced an allied force with near total air control
One more time you don’t get to set the bar high enough for Germany to clear then not set a higher bar
Guns made in the thousands do not belong in the same category as those made in the tens, hundreds of thousands and millions,
Those include the Johnson’s which don’t belong the tech tree then the fg42s
Again if you can avoid the super pershing gunshield get glasses

Quite sure ppl was just explaining that f9 rockets are pretty much AT only.
Unlike the Hvars that are effective against everything.

A clear downside

I can quite confidentally say that FW that after years still have broken flying models arent even remotely comparable to P47 regarding air combat.

Another downside

I like the way how you are justifying best equipments of the game T20, hyde, meteor with scapegoat arguments of armaguerra that absolutely no one uses.

A piece of shit weapon -/- meteor
Because neither was used :clown_face:

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Although it wasn’t built, it shares something with your fantasy tank, and that is that both NO THEY SAW COMBAT

I’m sorry, but those 8000 Danuvia/Kiraly watched Combate like the M3 Unlike your prototypes that didn’t see combat, such as the T20, Hyde, Meteor, P-80, and Pershing with M8 rockets

But I see you like numbers, so

•6003 Panthers vs 254 Jumbo 75s, of which 100 were later upgraded with the 76 gun

•1347 Tiger 1 vs 310 Pershing 1s, of which only 20 saw combat in Europe

•492 Tiger 2 vs 25 Super Pershing tanks, only 1 of which saw combat in Europe

•1430 Me 262 vs 200 Meteor MK III and 50 P-80 and they didn’t see combat

These are the numbers up to Germany’s surrender. You only talk about what suits you. But when you stop looking for excuses to justify your fantasy prototypes

Don’t change things, you’re complaining about the F-9 which you claim will be better than the P-47 when it’s not.

I mocked you for downplaying the ARMOR EXTRA Which gives you more Survival Which covers a large part of the turret and the entire front chassis And the German player has to aim, and does so, to destroy the super Pershing. But the Allied player cannot They just want to shoot and destroy the tank without any difficulty and without aiming.

But he has it and it saves him from those cannons, and the German players must target the weak, unarmored area to destroy the enemy tank.

You’re complaining that the Pershing isn’t strong and it’s at BR V, and I mentioned that the Tiger 1, which isn’t that strong, is also now at BR V.

The Panther also struggles, or does it fail to penetrate the super Pershing with its extra armor

Even if it was the only BR V assault weapon, a Thompson cannot be compared to an STG44 And the MP40 is inferior to any variant of the Thompson.

They’re the same tank with more armor, giving them greater survivability, and they have a longer reload time. But since it’s German, it can’t be compared.What irony

It’s curious that you bring up history, but you defend your prototypes that were used in WW2, unlike the German weapons that were indeed used They used

Unfortunately for you, tank duels here are 2 vs 2, and historically, in 1 vs 1 battles, even long-gunned Panzer IVs won against 75, 76 and 17lb Shermans.,same with the Panther,Tiger 1,Tiger 2, Jagdpanther, Jagdtiger, STUG III,IV, Jagdpanzer IV,Panzer IV 70/A,Hetzer etc

•6003 Panthers vs 254 Jumbo 75s, of which 100 were later upgraded with the 76 gun

•1347 Tiger 1 vs 310 Pershing 1s, of which only 20 saw combat in Europe

•492 Tiger 2 vs 25 Super Pershing tanks, only 1 of which saw combat in Europe

•1430 Me 262 vs 200 Meteor MK III and 50 P-80 and they didn’t see combat

Were you saying something? Because you only talk about numbers when it suits you, but in the end, those STG44 and FG42 tanks They entered into combat, unlike your Prototypes, which did not. , and they also caused the deaths of many Allied and Soviet soldiers Whether you like it or not, history and its events cannot be erased, even with your hatred towards the German Faction.

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So what I am hearing is something with ten or twenty times as many made should not be in the same category
That is 26 made should not be compared to say 500 made
Just like something with 0 made should not be compared to 26 made
Or 6000 made should not be in the same group as 600 000 made
Or 400 000 should not be in the same group as 3 000 000
Or something with 100 made should not me in this same group as 6 million
Sorry but a group say tech tree does not go just above 5000 to no limits either
Ok remove the t20 from the game then remove the fg42 from the tech tree and peoples arsenal save for like four of them

You right prototypes should not need to be in the tech tree
But given that every nation and faction fielded million to tens of millions of soldier
Neither should weapons with a few thousand
That I. Most battles only used a percent of that
No it does not go used in battle in tiny numbers tech tree everything else not in game
If you want to remove prototype from the tech tree and game
You need to remove rare, elite operator weapons from the tech tree.

A deliberately vague statement → 1945 =/= WW2

In europe the war ended in spring 1945.

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Yes and we have vague stats on production vs front line use
By 1945 half of German produced tanks were destroyed before reaching army units. Not front line half before reaching a military unit
Half the tanks produced in 1945 not half of all tanks produced
Sof for the 500 tiger tanks how many fired in anger half, acthird

if you want to fight FG42’s with grease guns its up to you, you can make that decission.

quite sure this has been your argument all along.
Or atleast when it benefits you, other times its not so exact.

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First M26E5 is postwar as most pointed out.

Second, i don’t think it would be helpful to the game : tiger II and M26E5 would struggle hard to kill one another and would end up spamming HE all over the place.

Finally Super Pershing is already there and more than a match for the big cat : yes the Super Pershing has a worse reload, but that’s the only main difference, everything else is very similar. Finally Allies gets better planes, so it make sense if the german can keep their edge in the tank department.

P.S. Arguing over production number in this game is just irrelevant, every faction gets very obscure prototypes all over the place anyway.

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Fg42 elite operator weapon used by paratroopers later paratroopers operating as infantry
Or are you saying every gi was as well trained equiped and as good as German paratroopers
Again allowing German weapons under say 20k to be treated the same as weapons with 50k 100k or more is unfair
Fg42 2 7000 fg42 1 2000 that’s not what I was talking about

You are correct as is the super Pershing with 100mm hull armor is an adequate second place
Until you add the f9 which is a better p47
Yes I said that a hundred time allies get better planes
Axis get better tanks
But there are people saying allied and axis armor is equal it’s not
Just like when the Ferdinand was added at br4 I suggested adding the tortoise and t29 at br4
Yes as things are fine imperfect but as many people point out you don’t need a one for one arsenal or tech tree
So yeah we don’t need the 26e5 now we do need it if Germany gets the f9
And to those who say the f9 is not a big deal so is the 26e5 not a big deal

so ass-ymmetrical balance when it suit you.

How about we remove the öfenförörör,t20,hyde drum tommys in exchange you get much better parachutes ?

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Sure you remove the fg42, the kiraly 39m, the tiger 2 h
Again the us had 3 million gaarands compared to 400k g43
Yes they had 500k stg44
Most Germans had the kar98 most us had the m1 carbine rifle or better
Again I want to fight ww2 not the thousand wank reich

Its bit late for that when entire murrican tree is sitting on protos & never used equipment.

M1 garand

Anyway, point being

Plane > tank.
So the current situation isnt even remotely balanced or even ass-ymmetrical.
As the GE tank advantage has been minimized constantly, new tanks, new AT, new planes.
While nothin has been done to murrican air supremacy.
So even if the F9 was better, which I doubt it wouldnt do sht in grand scheme.

BUT quite sure you still wont get the point so
good day.

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No I do and I agree with it
Germany needs better planes
Better fighters and attackers
But better then they have to the degree the Pershing and super Pershing are better then what they had
That is better then what they had but not as good as things like the king tiger h
So yes a better attacker that is still not as good as the p47
I disagree when you say the super pressing is as good as the super tiger or fredinand
I disagree with you when you say the f9 is not as good as the p47
Let’s say you suggested a plane with 6 20mm cannons and the 16 rockets
No 30mm cannons no 500kg bombs
Yeah that be great just a step down from the p47
You would see a blur moving for the yes button
I want a better game but I won’t feed into the wheeraboo victim mentality
That only sees balance when it is between it and it’s great enemy russia

well thank god them devs dont ask from you.

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I feel the same way I am sure it would be a balanced game
30 round thompson against sgt42
And garand against fg42
P47 against me262
Shemarn firefly against ferdinand
You would proudly declare enlisted fair balanced historically accurate to all 50 people still playing

you really need to make up your mind

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No that’s you’re list not mine
That’s the thousand wank reich
If you can tell that have I been bullying the mentally unwell
If so sorry
Yes Germany had great weapons
But most germans had bolties
And us soldiers had semi autos

It requires far more skill than you think to frontally pen a Tiger II than it does to frontally pen a T-26E1 and M-26 we should have stopped at Tiger 1 and the Jumbo 76 anyway, but Ruskies just had to have IS-2 which means adding its logical counter the Tiger II.


8,8 cm Flak 37>T26E1

8,8 cm Flak 37>M26

17 pounder APDS>Henchel Turret Tiger II

T26E1 APCBC> Henchel Turret Tiger II

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