Sichuan SMG magazine capacity correction

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Sichuan SMG magazine capacity correction
Hello bajtársak and fellow forumdwellers,
The Sichuan submachine gun is a little known and rare Chinese gun that is named after the
region it was made. Most of its components are heavily based on the American Thompson, however it is chambered in 7.63 Mauser instead of 45.acp.

There is little information available on the gun, so the game estimating the magazine capacity to be 30 rounds does not seem unreasonable at first considering that it is based off the Thompson.
However it was not taken into consideration that the 45.acp is 3.61mm wider than a 7.63 Mauser so a 7.63 Mauser magazine with its fairly similar length will have to hold more ammunition.

Luckily we do not have to resort to guessing as The Military Museum of The Chinese People’s Revolution has tested a Sichuan magazine, loading it with plastic blank ammunition.

The test was called off at 32 rounds loaded into the magazine due to the fear of the magazine being damaged, however it was estimated that the remaining space should allow a total of ~40 rounds.
source: The Sichuan-made “Mauser” submachine gun in the Military Museum’s collection - Zhihu


The In-game model

I went into the editor and closely inspected the magazine, counting the modelled bullets inside the magazine. I have counted them all three times and three times I have counted 34 rounds of 7.63 in the magazine. Meaning that the magazine capacity of the Sichuan could be increased in game to 34 rounds by the next patch.

However even with 34 rounds modelled, the magazine still has space for more rounds.
If you inspect the magazine just in the base game, you can see that the last magazine view hole does not have any rounds modelled. Why drill a hole into the magazine just to see the magazine spring? That is illogical and will only result in dust and debris getting in the magazine.
Logically, the view hole is there because that allows the soldier to see how much ammo he has left and the magazine is obviously meant to be loaded until the last view hole, so 7.63 ammo should be loaded until the marked with blue line, which would mean 4 more rounds, based on that fact that there about 4 rounds between each of the holes.
The total capacity of the magazine in-game would be at 38, which is only 2 rounds less than the maximum of the estimate of the Museum.

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Fix the magazine capacity of the Sichuan SMG to 38?
  • Yes
  • No, only increase it to 34 rounds
  • No, dont fix it
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Until the model is not updated to 38 rounds, should the Sichuan get 34 rounds (implying that it will get increased to 38 once the model is updated).
  • Yes
  • No
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idk man,

then it would seriously be a pay to win premium

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Funny hearing that from u XD. Its a 5 man premium squad even with 38 rounds it wouldnt be p2w.

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Submachine Guns Damage Reload Timings (s) Statcard Recoil Effective Recoil Moving Spread Increase
Weapon Name Obtained BR 10m 100m Velocity Magazine Reload Alt Reload Rate of Fire Vertical Horizontal Recoil Control Vertical Horizontal Dispersion While Aiming Hipfiring Visual Recoil Recoil Dir ADS Speed Recoil Offset Sprint Factor Weight Additional Info
Sichuan SMG Premium III 6.6 3.3 450 30 2.8 2.43 1240 18 5 0.4 7 2 0.71 0.0 15.0 1.3 0 0.9 0.3 100% 3.8 30/120
Uragan SMG 36000 RP III 6.90 3.4 450 32 2.2 1.9 860 26 8 0.4 10 3 0.64 0.0 15.0 1.6 0.4 0.8 0.3 100% 3.2 32/128
PPSh-41 (Box) 58000 RP III 6.6 3.3 450 35 2.4 1.9 1150 21 9 0.4 8 4 0.70 0.0 15.0 1.6 0.4 0.82 0.3 100% 4.1 35/105
MP-41(r) Chests III 6.8 4.0 400 32 2.6 2.07 1240 15 11 0.4 6 4 0.73 0.0 15.0 1.0 0.4 0.72 0.3 100% 4.1 32/128

I find your opinion respectable and thank you for bringing it up.
However, Im not on the opinion that it would be too much.
Sichuan already has longer reload time than Ppsh41 (box) so correcting magazine would at least make it equal to it.
Anyone is free to disagree, but I also find fire rate higher than 900-1000 rpm (depending on gun and situation) too high which results in a lot more wasted shots (bullets fired after the enemy has been killed because of human reaction time) though having a very high fire rate is nice in CQC.

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fair enough honestly, then it would be similar to the mp -41r and the ppsh box mag

makes sense

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Well we already have the Lanchester with 50 rounds. I don’t see why not

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Yes, this is the Sichuan Thompson, which belongs to the event unit. In fact, the Thompson was also chambered for 7.63 Mauser and used the same magazine as the Sichuan SMG.

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I agree with you. Personally, I think a magazine capacity of around 35 rounds would be ideal

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Breda PG

If the trustworthy source says it had more bullets per magazine then I see no reason not to increase it. Currently the Sichuan SMG is a sidegrade to the PPSh-41 stuck in a 5 man squad, giving it more bullets wouldn’t suddenly make the squad OP.

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Amazing.

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