i am not certain how good overall data is when compared to normal gameplay without newbie MM. last year i noticed few maps with extremely high prematch bot % which i attributed to newbie MM (~quarter of all battles and all invasion ones). this year i didnt notice high prematch bot %, so that may mean that game doesnt have new players or that devs have removed newbie MM from replay info page. so this may not be apples to apples comparison.
Because US and JP also use it. No other choices!
Well, there’s nothing we can do about it.
By the end of 2025
The promised additional earnings by the developers have not yet been implemented.
So personally, I think it’s easier to punish the offenders.
At present, I feel that in every game, there are at least 3 people who desert the game.
The maximum number of deserters can be 9.
Standard: Taking advantage of favorable winds to waste resources. Reverse: Surrendering in the face of adverse winds.
There is not the slightest will to fight together with the disadvantaged team.
I have even more extreme methods.
For example, when the deserter goes into battle next time, he will have a mark on his head indicating that he is a deserter.
Players with this mark can be killed by friendly forces.
At the same time, there will be no punishment.
“More needs to be done to discourage deserting”
Mate, that’s literally OP’s argument.
Make it clearer and easier to choose maps and game modes and I guarantee you 90% of desertions will stop.
The remaining 8% is people like myself who have this thing called a life outside computer games. We get called away, there’s a blackout (happens a lot where I live) etc. Then theres that 1 or 2% that everyones so desperate to punish.
If some noob wants to rage quit cause he got shot once, that’s his business. Who cares.
The main problem here is that we the players asked to be able to select maps and gamemodes. Instead the devs gave us this weird and ineffective system of liking and disliking some maps but unable to communicate discontent with gamemodes.
I should be able to click a button that says NO CONFRONTATION and NO TRACTOR PLANT and have that applied.
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I should also add my previous suggestion per Hell Let Loose.
In HLL there is a large award at the end for the winning team, but also for those that stayed until the end as HLL games can go for like 3 hours or more which just isnt practical for the majority of people.
I dont see why we cant have that same reward system in Enlisted. You are all so keen on Burn the witch! instead of just help players who do stay.
Why should you lose all your XP because you had to leave for any number of reasons?
I say just give that person the amount of XP they have at that point and they miss out on the end game win (if the team wins) and remainer bonus.
War Thunder as far as Im aware doesnt punish deserters even though many do leave (again for various legitimate reasons).
If you get shot once and leave, okay youre a noob but I really dont care.
As Ive argued before, desertions often happen when games are going for way too long (Confrontation…) which in turn would be fixed by just letting players remove unpopular gamemodes or disliked maps.
Likewise when the team is just getting steamrolled by the enemy. Now the point here is, you were getting steamrolled BEFORE anyone left. It’s just that when people see a crappy match like that, some will leave and I do not blame them.
Matches like that are often because of stupid uptiers or unbalanced factions (there has been some improvement in the latter regard).
I will always argue that in my over 5 years of playing this game I have never lost a match because some random Ive never met quit the game because 1. There was a knock at the door 2. Grandma needed help with groceries 3. The power went out 4. Gaijin server disconnected 5. Dinner’s ready 6. Game had gone on for 50 minutes and he had stuff to do 7. He’s a coward noob.
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Just a vendetta against people who don’t like being forced to play shitty maps and game modes repeatedly or have a life outside of enlisted.
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I hate this game mode its annoying as fuck.
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“Just vendetta against people who don’t like being forced to play shitty maps and game modes repeatedly or have a life outside of enlisted”
^This right here^
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Ikr. I dont know why the devs havent just banned confrontation already. NO ONE likes it.
For maps I would admit they did fix khalif caves. Its by no means by favourite map but it has been improved so that I am no longer that annoyed if it is queued.
One of the problems for myself and my squadmate is theres just so many crappy maps.
Normandy for example, theyre all boring and also poorly designed (objectives in buildings that are way too close together)
Tunisia is notorious for bad maps.
Pacific from memory most arent 'bad per se, but dreadfully mediocre now weve been playing them for goodness knows how long.
I liked Normandy (beach) then they put kill boxes over the flanking routes.
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No his argument is that the penalty did nothing if his argument was as you claimed he wouldn’t be asking for the penalty to be removed.
Bro can’t handle a 20 percent penalty for deserting more than every third game 
After all, every 3 normal battles can grant one free retreat opportunity.
So, even if the punishment is very severe, it doesn’t matter.
Proof? or is this one of those “just trust me bro it works” things?
Even in Manchuria I see half of the team deserting, so I need you to prove me wrong
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Someone pulled up the stats they got from tracking replay meta data. It decreased by 20 percent since last year.
No, I dont like losing 20% XP because I had to genuinely leave. Like I said, blackouts are annoyingly common here.
Idk why you people all get off on punishment so much.
FIX the problems instead of just chucking penalties at people.
Like a South East Asian or Australian server would help with a lot of people’s connection issues.
I’ve previously suggested having a server in Singapore as it could service Australia + New Zealand along with South East Asia and China if necessary
(I believe there are Chinese servers but they are separate to the European/American servers or something?)
Wow didn’t realize u were getting blackouts every three games dude that’s crazy.
lol be honest.
Simple fix allow player choice game modes