Until there’s proper confirmation, the increase in rate of fire is nonsense. It happened in 1949, and why not just take the 2002 report as evidence? That’s probably fine, too. The years of production of the original should be taken as fact, and nothing else.
Just like PPS43 shooting with 600 RPM right?
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If you think the PPS is unfair, change the values, but there’s no point in dragging MP into something that didn’t exist.
I’m not against improving the MP and increasing the rate of fire, but if it was realistic, if there wasn’t such a speed, then other characteristics could be improved.
Yeah, MP 40 shooting slowly is part of its overall iconic feeling.
Its both unfair and not historically correct.
That’s exactly it! Why make science fiction,to this weapon
I repeat once again, if you think this is so, fix it, but don’t make another unrealistic weapon.
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This is nonsense. The unfair SMG balance between the factions have been a thing ever since even before the merge(You will know this if you had played old enlisted when the campaign was still a thing), it’s all Darkflow’s doing not the community. Who do you think made the decision that made Japanese BR 2 SMG being ridiculously OP on BR 2? And what about M1A1 Thompson being moved to BR 2 from BR 3?(I highly suspect that the devs made it so just because USA could go toe on toe against Japanese BR 2 SMG if you ask me. A conspiracy theory if you will but i think that is it) Far as i know, nobody really asked for that but Darkflow forced that anyway. The community(As in, the majority) didn’t really ask for PPS-43 being on BR 2 with such BS stats, it’s been like that since the beginning. In fact, the community you speak of literally asked multiple times to adjust it in some way but all got ignored. Are you still going to blame the community for it?
Name any SMG that the community wanted to move it down to BR 2 from BR 3, actually got moved down to BR 2, and then over performing. Because i couldn’t find any.
This whole “BR 2 bloated and power creeped because of the community” thing gets really tiresome and factually wrong.
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Just a few that came to mind right away.
German :
Suomi KP-26
Erma EMP-44
MAS-38 (was to be meant BR3 when it was announced)
All of them are clearly overperforming MP40. I really don’t see any reason why would I want to use MP40 over them.
Japs:
Japanese SMGs rebalance that was initiated by community and was clear powercreep across the board.
US:
M1A1 Thompson.
I really don’t see any point to have M3A1 and M1A1 Thompson on the same BR.
Not to mention, M1A1 is a weapon that’s available only to seal clubbers, as it sits at Tier 4 in TT. So new players need to grind a lot with significantly worse weapons to get access to it.
All of this was pushed for only one reason. Using overperforming PPSs as argument.
Instead of doing something about them, people pushed for other factions to slowly get similarly performing weapons in BR2.
Well, it did. Even MP40 used to be BR3 (and quite a bunch of other “MP40 like” axis smgs). BR2 used to have completely different standard back then. With very few exceptions such as soviet PPSs.
And it’s pure fact that BR2 is now definitely the most overbloated BR, and by a lot.
As I have said. There’s no reason for why any 650+ rof SMG with 30+ round mag should be in BR2. (This could maybe be even applied to all 600+ SMGs.
I have literally never said a single word about it. Where did I say something about balance between factions? Huh?
Not to mention that there wasn’t a real balance before the merge. Take Normandy, for example. You could equip your assaulter with an MP43 or an MP40. That’s how big the performance gap between weapons was in a single match. And you could easily end up fighting an M3 grease gun with MP43.
Because this game wasn’t meant to be competitive, fair and balanced. It was purely casual game for casual audience. To be a well performing player in Enlisted never meant a thing. Enlisted was never a CS, Valorant or whatever.
All I said that is BR2 is most overbloated BR (that’s a fact) and insanely power crept (that’s also a fact, because fresh post merge BR2 used to have completely different standard) 
And as of now, there’s much wider performance gap between BR1 and BR2. Than there’s between BR2 and BR3. Speaking of smgs.
You are full of nonsense.
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All of your said examples are either BP/Event weapons and you are comparing it to MP40, which never even considered a good TT SMG from the start. I asked you which SMG that brought down from BR 3 to BR 2 by the community actually over performing not performing better than MP40. Also you want to use it as standard BR 2 SMG but in reality it’s been widely considered as shitty SMG this whole time. And you are actually brain damaged if you really think that Erma EMP-44 and MAS-38 is over performing on BR 2 when there are better SMGs available from the start. At least Suomi KP-26 makes sense and it is good but far from over performing.
Literally when? Did the community wanted to Type 100 (Early) sits on BR 1 with over 800 RPM with 7.2 dmg? How about Type 2a? Type 1 SMG? Are you making shits up now?
Me neither. But did the community wanted it to be on BR 2? I couldn’t find any post for someone even asking it nor the majority supports it. I suppose the answer is no huh?
Yes but only because the devs refused to do anything about the already over performing ones. PPS-43 being the prime example here. PPS-43 predates every over performing SMG on BR 2 in the game. Wanna bet that how many people made a post from the beginning, about do something about PPS-43 and then ignored by devs for to this day which is many years now. I wonder why?
Well, no. Because there are other caveats. There are SMGs with fast RPM but with shitty damage and/or excessive recoil, small magazine etc that clearly wouldn’t fit in BR 3. The prime example would be PP shpitalniy 1943 among others.
But you did. Literally. You kept crying about how bloated BR 2 because of “tHe cOmMuNiTy” and by saying how MP40 is somehow the golden standard of BR 2 SMG. You literally participated in balance argument between factions by doing so.
You know that’s not what i meant. Are you intentionally being disingenuous here? What i’m talking about is how even when there was no BR, the campaign unlockables between factions were incredibly unbalanced. Take PPSH-41 for example, what germany unlocked at the same level as PPSH-41? Yes, MAB-38 with 20 rnds mag. In berlin, when germany unlocked MP3008 the soviets unlocked PPS-42(Or was it PPS-43? it’s one of those two). Then merge happened and for some weird reason PPS-43 with that stats placed on BR 2 and still BR 2 to this day.
Obviously because only the most underwhelming SMGs gets to put on BR 1. There are few exceptions but yes.
Says the guy famous for being the forum clown.
I have no clue why this should be any relevant. I have two German BR2 lineup presets and one BR2 italian lineup preset.
I have all 12 squads available.
Yet I don’t have much room for obsolete TT weapons. My lineups consist almost entirely of event, BP, and premium weapons.
So are you saying that TT F2P plebs are not deserving to have lineups that can compete with mine?
Okay.
I don’t really think I need to waste my time arguing meaningless never eding discussions. You clearly are not interested in proper balance anyway.
It does relevant when the prime examples like M1A1 Thompson and PPS-43 being TT SMG thus available for everyone.
If anything, you are the one who advocates for “TT F2P plebs are not deserving to have lineups that can compete with mine”, not me. You, the one who literally thinking that MP40 is somehow the golden standard of SMG(lmao).
Also, let’s not play that game. I can clearly see what you are trying to do here, it’s incredibly scummy, let’s not.
But i thought that’s what you loves to do? Judging from your previous posts? 
Oh trust me, i want the proper game balance for every factions in the game. It’s just that your weird “proper” version of game balance probably not compatible with mine. 
The japan buff was clearly aimed at making japan competetive for the upcoming japan vs soviet campaign AKA japan vs PPS 43. If the PPS 43 wasnt so busted there would have been no need for the buff. Also I dont think the buff was exactly popular with the community which again just contratics your "it was the community fault narative.
Your “people pushing for MP 40 to become obsolete” only got that momentum as it became increasingly clear that even after years of begging Dark Flows golden boys would not be nerfed and the PPS 43 would continue to dominate in conjuction with body armor.
Before that everyone on the axis was just fine with only the MP 40 and trying to deflate the uneven powerlevel for BR 2 instead.
Blaming the community for any of this shit is just insulting as nobody had ask DF to add increasingly busted weapon to soviets BR 2 only.
It all stated with the PPS 43 beeing busted and continued even with the “uragan” beeing added.
DF was blatantly having favorites so axis pushing for some better gear to keep up was more than understandable.
Nobody on the axis side wanted this arms race but DF made it inevetible though incompetance.