Please, this would be the perfect weapon to use on BR II with a US Machine Gunner squad for those of us who value SOME historical accuracy.
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Just nerf it a little before downtiering so people wouldn’t complain. There definitely should be a american lmg in br 2
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Slightly slower reload and aim speeds should do the trick.
You are correct that Japanese and German mains will complain about them being dropped unless they are detuned almost to the point of being completely useless. 
So, to get the WAR or any BAR into BR2, I would suggest dropping it’s rate of fire. It would still be a decent weapon if it were dropped to 500 base and 550 to 570 max. If were talking about the WAR and it remains as a BP weapon, then it is already limited in numbers and should get less of a debuffing.
I would throw a bone to the Germans by buffing the MG13 by reducing it’s horizontal recoil. I would be in favor of adding the Japanese Hotchkiss MG to the tech tree, but in all honesty, the Japanese get so many captured weapons that they shouldn’t need much of a bone thrown their way.
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Don’t know if you need that many nerfs. I don’t think anyone really uses these on BR III on a large scale anyways. Plus, it’s a 20 rounder. If you nerf the fire rate that much, it might get outclassed by the other BR II MG’s, which are all 30 rounders.
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I wouldnt mind if instead of nerfing BAR, devs removed the BS moving spread increase from all machine guns so my machine gun wouldnt act like a smooth bore musket after a 10m sprint.
Machine guns already have sprint debuff and class limitations anyway.
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The A2 is pretty much what everyone uses on BR3 for a MG. The 1918 is currently untouched unless you don’t have the A2 unlocked. 1918 sucks in comparison, remember that much, but haven’t used in a long time to give a true opinion. I do feel like there are currently just as good of MGs out there though for br2 as is. I honestly love this new lewis rifle. The hotchkiss is amazing and is probably the one that stands out the most in br2. Would definitely be against that going to japan TT. MG13 is actually a solid br2 MG as well.
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I agree, the WAR or the base 1918 BAR does not need de buffing to be used in BR2, but that would probably be the only way the German or Japanese mains would not fight against it tooth and nail. They aren’t willingly going to want to give up an advantage they currently have. 
Other then the Soviet BP RPK 1943 MG, the MG 13 IMOP is the best BR2 machine gun.
The BASE BAR has quite a bit more vertical recoil then the MG13, a smaller magazine then the MG13 and has virtually the same ROF. The BAR has a smaller horizontal recoil then the MG 13. The WAR has almost identical vertical recoil, but less horizontal, So, if the MG13 had it’s horizontal recoil reduced to that of the WAR, then they would virtually have the same vertical and horizontal recoil, however the MG 13 would still have a bigger magazine size and a higher ROF.
I don’t have a fully updated BAR 1918 base model because I don’t use it, but IMOP, either the Base BAR or the WAR would be perfectly fine as they are dropped to BR2. I don’t really have a “MAIN” so to speak, as I have played 2,450 games with the Allies and 2,250 with the Germans since the merge. However, I played over 1,450 games with the Allies before I started my German squads, so, I have been far more German then Allies the past three years. That being said, I have no problems playing as a German facing BAR’s or vice versa as I am not afraid of equal competition. 
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I just want a Tech Tree BR II Machine Gun for the US Machine Gunner squads because the thought of using the Bren with the Americans shakes me to my core.
This gun is going unused anyways and it makes sense to lower it to BR II while as I mentioned in my other suggestion, add the Lewis Gun to BR III for a British alternative.
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You know, to be honest as someone who uses the MG13 as much as I use the BAR, the only place the MG13 is inferior to the BAR or WAR is it’s horizontal recoil as it likes to just sway side to side, so, if they reduced the MG13 to the same horizontal recoil as the BAR, IMOP they would be a good match up against the BAR or WAR. In fact by doing that, the WAR and MG13 would be almost exact in the recoil area.
I actually prefer the MG13 to the MG34.
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I don’t think it’s needed still. If it’s superior in mag size and rof there should be some form of “balance” by having a negative or worse attribute.
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There is an exisiting suggestion for it:
Closing it as a duplicate, but thanks
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