Reason being that US troops don’t have any machine gun at BR II and have to use Commonwealth ones instead. Also there is no need for three BR III BARs so making an obsolete one a little weaker wouldnt be a bad thing
Do you agree with such of a change?
I recently made the same suggestion.
Even including the necessary nerfs.
Disagree, maybe add the jungle bar for BRII, but dont lower the BRIII bars
Jungle Bar would be cool, but if it wont be added thats what should be done. Even Thompsons split across all BRs because there were too many of them
I have suggested this countless times, and I get countless silence from the Dev’s about it. They love taking my money, just not my suggestions. 
Seriously though, they could take the base BR3 BAR1918, drop it’s rate of fire to a base of 500 with like 550 maxed and it would fit in fine at BR2. Or even the WAR for that matter could be dropped, however since it is BP not everyone would have access to it unless at some point the Dev’s put it up for sale or as an event weapon. Fortunately, I have five of them so I am covered any way. But the Base BAR needs to be mildly debuffed and dropped as the US needs a MG at that level and it is just rotting on the vine at BR3 where it never gets used. It’s a WW1 weapon, used by the US in every theatre of WW2 so there is no reason not to have one in BR2. 
On a side note, If I had the say, I would also give something to the other factions as well. The Soviet RPK 1943 a 20-25 round magazine and add it to the BR2 TT. Add the Hotchkiss Japanese MG to the BR2 TT, and drop the recoil on the MG-13 for the Germans.
Another suggestion is if the Dev’s don’t want to mess with any of the current BR3 BAR’s, then just give us a NEW Jungle BAR and place it at BR2.
The m1918 bar and m1918a1 are nearly identical, putting 1 in br2 after it’s been nerfed will give the US a br2 bar and nothing in br3 will be lost because both guns are the same. The jungle bar wasn’t a standard variant and is much more suited to being a event, premium or BP gun.
WW1 BAR aka M1918 was historically speaking preferred by many WW2 GIs - because it was lighter.
Weight was an issue for the BAR, often US troops would throw away their bipods on their WW2 BARs - but if they could get their hand on one of those WW1 BARs they would pick that one instead.
So technically I disagree with this post, because I think that M1918 should actually get dispersion buffs or even be moved to BR4 as a trooper select fire rifle
People really need to realize that all the BAR variants are still one of the strongest MGs in the BR3, beaten only by KE7
Kind of ironic that the Japanese have the KE7, which they most likely never used, however they probably captured a couple off the battlefield from the Chinese. That being said, I would still take the BAR A2 over the KE7 if I had to pick one. Also, if they are going to give the KE7 a 50 round magazine, they need to give the BAR a 40 round as well since it was an option.
I need Bar shortened like Sponge show at br 2
If it means the allies will finally get a tech tree BR 2 LMG that isn’t a topfed that covers half the screen when you aim, I’m all for it.
I think from the game’s perspective, they should nerf the M1918A2 and make THAT the BR 2 LMG. It’s heavier, and should have worse ADS, recoil, dispersion etc to reflect it.
The M1918 was an automatic rifle from the ground-up, and isn’t shoehorned into a light machine gun role like the M1918A2, which it did poorly. Maybe even the M1918A1 could be changed/nerfed to BR 2 as well.
Or no, and add Juggle BAR as a sort of debuffed BAR or something comparable.
I see your point.
Consider this perspective though; with notable exceptions, the early tech tree relies on pre-war or early-war equipment.
Whilst the design of the M1918A2 was conceived in 1938, production only really picked up during the war (initial production relying on refitting old weapons before the production of fully new weapons could begin), making it the quintessential WW2 variant of this gun. And if nothing else, it is the last and most modern of the BARs the US ever adopted.
I feel like, where ever plausible and appropriate, gear should be placed in term of how modern the thing is, like a true “tech(nology) tree”. Of course, there will always be exceptions, because this is a video game and not a simulator, some things can only ever be one thing (for example, a 24 round 9mm SMG can only really ever be BR I or II). But that does not mean she shouldn’t at least try.
The M1918 is in a good position to get moved down, because it is the first iteration of the iconic gun, so that it can be used without much pain with the US Springfields (and hopefully, future TT 20-round versions of the Thompsons), to create a true but still competative inter-war loadout.
In short, thematic and cosmetic reasons should be considered too, at least in my humble opinion.
I do not think that argument works … Otherwise we would get the PPD with 73 round on BRII.This is a nice idea but is simply not how TT balance works. You could argue we should have a rework based on early V late war, but right now, this is simply not how the TT works.
And the M1918 BAR would just be extemely strong, US is already quite strong on BRII wth the Thompson and Lee rifle. Adding the BAR well would make them without a doubt the strongest faction on BRII without much competition.
So, I dont really agree that any BAR should be lowered, unless it is significantly debufed (or another version is added that is weaker, which is my prefered option)
As I said, there are exceptions, and we are still trying to balance a game. But we are also trying to represent WW2.
Both perspectives are needed, dismissing one over the other is just folly.
So, good thing I am not asking for blind obedience to either side, which I do wonder if you even picked up or not.
Also, we’re just discussing the M1918, not moving down all BARs, and I think it’s very clear from the original topic that nerfs to this weapon is warranted as part of the change, no one is suggesting that it be lowered without any alterations.
Furthermore, this consideration to real-world prominence/use is taken into account when it comes to tech tree placement where possible, just go ahead and make a list sometime, you’ll see a pattern forming in the tech tree. Even more so, the devs/forum-staff have made it known on multiple ocassions that these things are in fact taken into account. The guidelines on the forums for creating a suggestion does say you should argue from these grounds, and most damming of all, the official Enlisted BR guide video does state that “the higher the BR, the more modern the equipment is in the context of the Second World War, which Enlisted is all about”. It’s a WW2 game, WW2 is taken into consideration, it’s simply a matter of reality to accept this, but neither is the game a slave to history, because everything is better in moderation.
I am starting to get a little tired from people proclaiming that it isn’t a factor at all, it clearly is, and frankly it should be. Both gameplay and real world considerations are needed to make a game enjoyable for the most people as possible, taking wisdom from a single source only makes said wisdom stale, as a wise man once roughly said.
There are other arguments too, but those have already been explored above by others, such as:
Those two reasons alone should be enough to move it down, I just offered a additional perspective to someone speaking from real-world reasons, offering up slightly different ones. I thought that was a perfectly fine thing to do.
Yes, I just want a BR2 American MG, and BR3 has THREE BARs, I don’t care which one gets nerfed and moved to BR2.
My take on BR2 BAR that M1918 is the most ideal to be moved to BR2 because its the first BAR in the tech tree.
Making A2 BR2 would be far less practical.
Fr, I want to use mg squad at BR II but I can’t. Instead of just dropping one BAR (which people make a bigger deal than it actually is) we get the lewis AR instead. (But why would I ever use that over a BAR?)
I mean, it’s decent, though the texture does look…off…and we only get two of them, because Heavens forbid they’d give you enough of the specialist weapons to outfit a squad. Gotta have that artificial scarcity—