Make G43 Kurz Great Again đŸ‡©đŸ‡Ș

Their high damage help them in mid to long range, they have some what of a unique gameplay to them, the jump from 500rpm to 600 makes a gun feel so much better than MKB, so it can defend itself up close a bit better than MKB, while being able to two hit down at quite some range - still STG 44 and FG42 both are much better up close, while STG has a bit less power at longer ranges and FG42 need to go for single shots.

In other words, G43K can simply shoot full auto at 100+ meters and still take out people fast, so yeah the gun has something going on that makes it feel special.

Still, it shoots just a bit too slow to make it worth using it.

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Thank you, dear brother SG-44, for your support. I wasn’t trying to boast about any achievements—whoever knows me doesn’t need any explanations, and whoever doesn’t, well, that’s their problem.
I got lucky with the randoms back then, I’m not that good.

Unfortunately, I couldn’t always help you, that’s a big regret.

Moreover, on this side of the forum, I appear rarely.

The idea is good, but they are lazy about adding a whole CLUSTER of new weapons under the new BR, unfortunately, and with the announcement of WT infantry, things are getting even gloomier.

They’ll keep the online going with marathons that they came up with a couple of months ago or so.

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I wouldn’t have been able to give a better answer anyway, everything is correct.
But here everything depends on experience and the availability of this weapon, probably it’s easier to say that the G43K doesn’t need a buff, because you don’t have it.

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Very interesting point that the sniper MKb and sniper StG-44 have the SAME rate of fire, although the regular MKb has a rate of fire of 500.

They’re not bad, but I prefer the StG.

Why then not raise the rate of fire for the G43K, I don’t understand.

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i think that many of the reasons why ppl dont wanna touch this gun is because is a limited gun but honestly since is limited you are not gonna see it to often so whats the problem and also is a buff to a gun to get a new opportunity to be used and be as ““OP”” as before

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:joy::joy::joy: there you are again self inflating, saying your opinion is more correct because you’ve been around longer and/or have more stuff.

Once again, I have more than you, have been around just as long if not longer, and I’m telling you you’re wrong here. I never put words in your mouth, I quite literally represented you the most accurate way possible. You think you’re the be all, end all, but yet you’re too dull to understand it’s a good thing for the community as a whole (the playerbase) to have options to choose from. There are numerous players who would rather use a more accurate and easier to use rifle than a faster firing one that burns through ammo. That is a fact. It’s also a fact that not everyone likes/wants to use the most meta things out there as that leads to stale and boring gameplay. You’re laughable.

Got anything besides the constant crowing? Maybe some proof that you’re actually right — statistics, numbers, anything? No? Then maybe crawl back under the floorboards.

Most people clearly didn’t like the change from burst fire to full-auto with a reduced rate of fire. In practice that just makes it worse than the STG-44. If you’re so confident, go ahead and calculate the DPS — it’s basic math, assuming you’re capable of handling simple formulas.

And let’s be honest — on console aim assist does half the work for you, so you probably don’t even know what recoil control or proper shooting feels like.

So are you going to bring any real arguments, or just keep crowing after splashing into the puddle? Honestly I’m not expecting much. I get that even simple conclusions like this might be difficult for you. But go ahead — give it a try. At least entertain me.

Funny 4monya.

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Ah so i can make 2 guns one meta and decent

And the other one is pure “fun” but it has no chance against its opponent

Is Even more boring to see how You get cooked while no having a relistic chance of figthing back oh yea thats what You call fun X D

Who cares if You have been longer than X type Shi i’ve mĂșltiple users Even older than ts Game and You and are Even more stupid SO the argument “i have been playing since ““ultra mega hiper alpha sigma phase”” is just another nonsense” You could have been Even before the Game idea existed but anyways You would be wrong cuz what Ur statements Say at least My friend here deus seem to have studied the Game stadistics u like You who seems to preffer the “”“”““fun””“”“” over the logical

More personal insults and Shi like that bruh :wilted_flower::wilted_flower::wilted_flower: what an amazing an constructive talk we having here

And i’ll tell You that this is also W r o n g

Anyone who have 2 fingers in front of their eyes and not inside their ass would preffer use something usable rather than something unssufereable

And what abt easier XD? don’t make me laugh that You suffer with recoil control on ts Game where is almost nonexistent except with mgs? Don’t tell that the old versión on G43 was hard to use Lolololololollololool sure buddy knowing that i asume that theres a bigger problem more than jsut the weapon itself XD

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I would buff the damage. CMON!

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First fire used to and still does basically gave you no rate of fire cap but the gun originally was 480rpm which is lower than what it is

there much no evidences wich still in game :stuck_out_tongue:
wrong weapons, wrong magazine capacity, weapons from ww1 wich none seen after again, t34-57 wich uses early hull but have over douple armor on magic ways etc


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This is a misconception. What the Gaijin devs wrote in the weapon card in the game does not correspond to reality. The weapon card in the game shows one thing, but if you check the Enlisted Resource compiled by Efimiya, you can see that it is not actually the case.

For example, the Fedorov rifle with the 25-round magazine. It also had one rate of fire written in the card, but in reality in the game it exceeded 1000 RPM. Only later did they set it to the correct value, removed the recoil, and made it 1100 RPM.

The same situation exists with the Breda PG CR. It says 350, but in reality it is around 600-750 RPM. I don’t remember the exact value.

The Kurz before the nerf was definitely around 700+ RPM, which made it the best Axis assault rifle. It was slightly better than the STG-44 and a bit more accurate. That was the reason you spent Golden Orders on it or bought it.

Then it got nerfed - the burst fire was removed and it was forced into full auto at 550 RPM. Now it loses to every assault rifle at its tier and in its class. Hyde and the AS-44, which is basically a reskinned STG but better.

You also need two bullets to kill a soldier, because 0.5 damage does not allow a one-shot kill. So with the nerf to the rate of fire it completely lost its competitive advantage.

I can send a couple of videos with the old G43 Kurz. You can see for yourself how he constantly clicks because the fire rate is high. Or you can do the following: start a one-minute timer, go to the practice range, record your screen while firing, then upload the recording (or a YouTube clip) into a neural network and ask it to count the rate of fire. It will not be 480 or 550 xD.

Unfortunately.

2 videos for compare and see what the difference

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Well it does have a bit of a range advantage over STGs because of the higher damage and accuracy, but STG is also already pretty good at range, so overall its true, STG 44 is universally a better gun which is kinda sad, G43 K used to be one of (if not) the best weapon in the game - IF you could handle the burst of course.

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That’s just not true. Not everyone runs and guns. There are different ways to play the game, and people should have an option. I have seen many more people wanting a choice between fast fire rate/low accuracy and slower fire rate/more accuracy/ease of use. This is all quite basic FPS logic. If you prefer faster fire rate, then guess what? You can choose that, but your preference for faster fire rate shouldn’t override my choice to have a more accurate/easy to use gun.

The real argument is player choice. Which you are too dense to understand apparently. You’re preference shouldn’t override mine or anyone else’s. Basic FPS logic. “I’m right because you’re wrong” is not a real argument buddy. It’s common sense that people like to play differently from one another. Not only have I seen many people asking for more diverse weapons to choose from and encouraging it, it’s common sense that people are going to have different opinions. You don’t need stats/proof for such common sense points, but if you’re going to insist then it’s only fair for you to provide similar evidence saying players do not want choice.

You’ve clearly never used a controller before :rofl::rofl::rofl: you’re statements are a literal joke.

Excuse me, in what source this topic is based btw

NP I want its buff too also, got 4 Kurz and its weak

There you go again comparing it to a gun that fits in a totally different slot. It can NOT be used on assaulters. It is in the same slot as the fg42. Giving players a choice in playstyle. How you’re not able to understand this, is beyond me

They fill two seperate slots. It competes with the fg42. I will say it again, giving players a choice in playstyle is a good thing. You’re preference to use the fg42 shouldn’t override mine to use a weapon like the g43. I really wouldn’t care what happens to it now if they gave us something else in the same slot that offers the same differences. But there isn’t one, which is why i fully support it’s current state.

Lol. Just after making the statement about insults? You’re a real one. Maybe you need a course in the english language. Easier to use does not automatically mean this, but even if it does, those players should have access to a weapon that is EASIER to use. You simply only care about yourself and your own opinions. Your way is the right way, and everyone else who prefers the opposite is simply wrong or doesn’t exist. You deserve a standing ovation. You and deus are a perfect match for each other, you both act like fascist :rofl:, no wonder y’all play germany. Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one.

Listen, me and a bunch of people in this thread and this section of the forum figured out a long time ago that you just don’t get the point of the discussion. You don’t bring real arguments - you appeal to emotions, to “personal choice” and some other nonsense that just drives every conversation straight into a dead end. So arguing with you any further is like Xerxes fighting the sea (if you can even understand analogies at all).

I could be wrong, sure, but buddy - I was probably playing consoles back when you couldn’t even talk yet. I started with a Famicom clone - in my country we called them Dendy - then moved on to legit original SEGA, even had some time with the Philips 3DO. PS1 all the way up to 2001, then PS2, PS3/PSP with online play on PlayStation. COD MW, Battlefield 3-4 - I’ve got serious FPS experience even on consoles and it still felt inconvenient as hell. The moment I hooked up a keyboard and mouse to my PS3, I was absolutely destroying console kids like they were nothing.

You’ve clearly never used a controller before :clown_face:

What other baseless hot takes are you gonna try to serve up next? You sure you don’t work in a circus?

Thanks for the thread bump though, I’ll give you that - but as someone capable of having an actual intellectual conversation? Yeah
 apparently not you.

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