M2 Carbine: 8.8 to 13.6 Damage

30 rounds of 1 shot on a controllable platform without any of the downsides of other SF rifle is kinda busted. Oh and double the ammo reserves compared to similar SF rifles would make it also just bonkers.
Especialy if you again concider that the ammo used is just a bit larger pistol ammo and dwarfed by assault rifles.

The maybe dont try to rework the entire game then?

What is the point of the T 20 with 15 dmg if the fantasy M2C also 1 shots with 13.6 damge?
Are you that afraid of the japanese bikers squad having access to body armor?

I simply do not think it to be necessary, and would cause subsequent problems as mentioned by some before me: m1 carbine in br2 is perfect atm. If buffed, it would need to be removed from br2… because then why would mkb42h(15) be br3 and not 2?

I enjoy the m2 in br5, presently. 30 rounds instead of 20, a very high rate of fire and a VERY important ammo reserve make it not weaker imo, but a sidegrade.

It is a no, for me.

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30 round M1 carbine at BR 3 :crossed_fingers:t2:

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since T20 appeared i would rather preffer it to be on BR 4 smgs department

Since the vegetable exists for axis, I certainly don’t see why this one couldn’t also

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Fair take, but I feel like there are too many Thompsons at BR 4 that would overshadow it.

tommys have slow bullet speed in fact these are have 262 while m2 has 580

if you dont know on what it translates… tommys speed equal to a snail speed

so moving it to smgs will give variety at br 4

Allied players do complain that all their thompsons are unplayable due to the poor velocity. For those who cant deal with that the M2 carbine could be used.

If not for its velocity the BR 4 thompsons just massacers the BR 5 MKB statwise. Litterly the only thing holding the thomsons back is its speed otherwise their stats are kinda nuts.

Yeah but 50 round drum better :thinking:

I’ve personally never had a problem with Thompsons but fair point

m2c isnt really like the others tho being a 1 shot machine so its not an issue

hypoteticly yes thats why my suggestion to move the 50 bullet tommy to br 4 was aproved and done it into the game

but if we think that 50 bullets better wouldnt that mean M2 has no place?

Have you read the title of this topic and what OP what to do?

I just think a drum mag Thompson would be more of an advantage than muzzle velocity.

M2 is like the red head step child. Not good enough for BR 5 but too good for a BR 4 rifle. It’s tricky to place.

perhaps it has no place? cuz moving it to br 3 smgs would screw it cuz damage and then the fact that tweaking it would kill the point of the gun

well maybe i gotta admmit this gun will stay here for a while until any significative change to game happens

Most logical thing to do would be to rebalance/nerf the T20 to bring it in line to make the M2 a worthy alternative. But I know that’s controversial.

What is ‘good enough’ in a world where endless 9 AVT/T20 spam dictates the rules?

thats true FG42 II is close to be like T20 (second worst SF), nerfing it would only screw even more the balance

or maybe… if the changes to SF that were supposed to happen on last update were applied this gun would be peak

but screwing meta would only set the game on fire

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Yeah that’s what I was hinting at, I was kind of pro select fire nerf tbh.