Now that both the AVT-40 15 and AVS-36 15 are obsolete, how about moving them to BR 2 and switching their class to MG gun? Ideally with a slight damage nerf and boost in the other categories (regarding the recend auto-rifles nerf)
It’d be important to (obviously) implement MG gun statistics to it, making it a slightly worse BAR for a lower BR
It’d be historically accurate too, as they were mostly early war designs, phased out as the war went on.
While it does only have 15 rounds with it having no sprint speed reduction I could see it at BR3 more.
I think automatic rifles should be moved to Assault
Ah yes lets move one of the best guns in the game to br2 and make its stats slightly worse.
well, if the bar had it’s MG baseline stats removed, it’d be a great BR 5 gun.
Yep, this is why the t20 is in br5
and if you gave the t20 MG gun characteristics?
Then it still wouldn’t be BR2. If the AVT is to become an MG it’ll have to be BR3 minimum
With 15 rounds? I don’t think it compares
Against the BAR? Yes it does.
With unchanhed stats, maybe, but I’m proposing a change in stats. What does an MG have to an SFR? worse dispersion, movement penalty, aim speed, recoil, etc. If you nerf all of these, I’d be more suited for BR2 I think. Especially since We’re not downtiering the AVT40 20
Well, I mean, if you really wanted to fit it into BR 3 you deffinitly could do that, but I don’t think a 15 rounds BAR would equal a 20 round BAR
And i think smgs should be moved to rifleman.
You can come into my tier trying to adjust it to your liking then i will do the same with yours.
That sounds absolutely ridiculous? Ha! Well so does you making the BRV rifleman weapon into an assault.
The whole idea is that you are in big boy leagues BRV now so every soldier can be high powered.
So big boys cant control little bit recoil or what is the problem here?
You can always choose the AR’s that still have virtually no recoil, if the upcoming SF rifle recoil is too much for such big boy.
And considering how you dont really see the issue with bodyarmor needing extra shot I highly doubt you notice anything different with AR’s compared to SF.
It’s more about making it a bit more immersive. Automatic rifles were just too rare to be the standard infantry arm and what little were actually used is more fitting for Assault. If this game had a Cold War era I wouldnt have any problem with every Riflemen using one, but this is WW2
To compensate they could make the new high tier Riflemen weapon be high magazine semi-autos
I think we’re steering a little bit off-topic here.
You said you wanted the AVS to be moved to MG, so I thought I’d chime in that I think it’s better if it, and it’s whole family of automatic rifles, be moved to Assault
I only said it about this specific battle rifle, not the whole category. Not trying to deprive BR 5 of rifleman weapons.
I think AVS would be a much better choice for early war maps. It would simply make more sense.
If I’m not mistaken, the AVT-40 was first produced in 1942. The AVS, as a BR2 machine gun, would simply work better for the atmosphere of early war maps, than AVT.