FlakPanzer IV "Wirbelwind" BR III

meanwhile in other topic, requesting a danish ( 10 made ? ) smg to murrican TT.

avs / avt would remain.
Both saw combat.

Sure, to pacific.
JP experimented with biological weapons so id imagine it being quite bit of fun. JP dies to nuke and murricans die to what ever biological horror JP made :person_shrugging:

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One is false and the other is not.

But the T20 never arrived.

That’s curious. But I also remind you that Germany had its assault squadrons and other weapons. And also being the only Faction with Assault Rifles, Jet Fighters, Ofenrohr, Panzerfaust And not the other Factions

“So few numbers” that several squadrons could be equipped with this weapon as the sole or primary weapon in the squadrons Something the T20 doesn’t

He earned it because he watched Combat in large quantities, unlike T20

That explains everything. You’re very patriotic. But the reality of WWII wasn’t a walk in the park for the USA in Europe like it was in the Pacific. It’s not the same facing the best army of WW2 as facing the Coconut Trees of Banzai This is a game that gives the opportunity to use the real weapons that were used, but due to the lack of skill of their factions, they were given prototypes for balance.

He saw combat

The FG42 has been explained to you repeatedly, and you simply lost this “discussion” that you never had a chance of winning. Using the logic of the game for its inclusion from the beginning and the historical context where it would be exclusive to the Fallschirmjäger and yet You lost

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who cares the eff-ghee42 saw combat? Who cares the T20 didn’t? Only you and your buddy there, because everyone knows in no game like this should a faction have a sweeping advantage in one topic.

This is STILL the case, no matter whatever kind of “biases” you pull up, because everyone is suggesting key word: reasonably for certain things to be yet adjusted to fit balance (unlike your suggestions, which would be terrible to balance, eg. squad of 9 STG assaulters)

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To the German players

We German players react when the Allied player criticizes the FG42 and justifies the artificial prototype to cover up its low combat level.

Every player of this game who sold you the idea of something AUTHENTIC in 2020-2021 wanted a historical game with Real weaponry Even with its disadvantages, because that’s how WW2 was Because it’s pointless to limit the advantages of one Faction simply to satisfy others that also have significant advantages over this Faction.

There was no balance in WWII, and this game was balanced at the time, but complaints changed it to create artificial balance.Whether you like it or not, this is what happened to Enlisted in recent years: it has changed and moved away from what it promised/sold us.

How curious. Criticism of a REAL squadron. With a Realistic configuration that was used as unbalanced. But when it comes to Allied CAS there is no problem because "there is balance"They simply use it as a convenient way to vent their frustrations with the Axis.Like your patriotic friend from the USA Complaining in every German publication about the FG42, Tiger 2H, etc., and in this publication where the Wirbelwind was requested to try to counter the CAS An ally who has been harassed with bombs and rockets, but they do nothing. The developers tried to fix this, and it simply boils down to saying that this can’t be added because the F-9 is better than the P-47; Wirbelwind can’t be added because it’s not iconic and it would destroy their air supremacy.,You talk about balance, but I don’t see that this includes the Germans.

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Thank goodness the German army was so largely truly
Thousands served
No tens or thousands
No hundreds of thousands
I mean it be crazy if millions
No nearly twenty million served
Because the the guy with less than 10 000 would be a joke

Yes it must be the most produced weapons
They could have never made 100 of thousands of rifle
Nor millions
Nor made more tanks than this large productions weapon
Again you don’t get to place the bar just high enough to clear

Let’s set the bar at actually seeing combat. Or at being adopted by the military. The FG-42 clears both, and they’re low bars, the T20 neither.

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thats it, that’s the bar, ok I decline this is ww2’ not a backyard brawl
That’s the tech tree bar
Saw combat or adopted so five ten twenty as long as adopted and saw combat, I give up on you
I missed that or combat or adoption that’s, sad, just sad

The T20 doesn’t clear that bar. Thus it should be removed if it were the criteria, sadly it isn’t.

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I never said it belonged I said neither the fg42 not the t20 belong in the tech tree
I said if the fg42 belongs in the tech tree so does the t20
9 000 across 3 models is not tech tree worth
Again you can’t set a standard that favors one faction above all others

It favours no faction. The M2 still gets in, most of the Jap TT gets kicked but that’s not a surprise to anyone, the soviets get to keep their SF rifles, and the KE7 and some other stuff gets thrown out for the Axis. All factions would loose some things if that were the standard.

The us looses the hyde it’s only tech tree ar and t20 it’s only tech tree sf what does Germany loose from the tech tree

Sorry but the ke7 isn’t a meaningful lose
The amarg the zh29, ect would be more so but meet the , standard,
Having no sf and no he would be devastating across two brs 5: being heavily played

Japan decestated
Us uncompetitive in some br
Ussr injured
Germany annoyed

Maybe that shows us that SF rifles need to be properly balanced for once.

I don’t see how you can balance the fg42 to the m2 much less the m1 garand
The fg42 is a mag fed carbine
Unless you give it machine gun accuracy dispersion meaningless
Unless it drops to two hit kill, down see above
Reload, don’t see it going stripper clip
Rate of fire lowering it unless it’s a lot would only up accuracy
Ads again unless it’s machine gun would not help
So um magic it to miss half the time lol

Also the M2 is a SF rifle in game. The US get to keep it

The m2 is a SF with ar damage yeah it’s accurate but there indifferent weight classes
You just want a roll back to when the us had the m2 and Thompson against thecfg42’and stg44
No

I want prototypes out of the TT. All of them.

Funny how Germany has no prototypes in the tech tree to get rid of
I want either ww2 or a balanced game
No not one forevone but in totality
So again that rule favors Germany
Which would be fine if the game didn’t balance numbers
Every team gets the same number of planes, tanks and infantry not ww2

WW2. Get rid of the prototypes and you’re a lot closer.

Not close enough, I want to fight ww2 not ww2 call of duty, ww2 battlefield ect ect not ww2 the video game that favors the axis
Either historical or balanced

Now if everyone equally had something to like not the same something, something go special but you also forgot the captured gear I am sure you would remove next, the t20 and hyde are bad enough but losing that bazooka would be crippling at high br