It’s about time we saw an iconic German anti-aircraft gun on the TT In order to deal with enemy aircraft Allies
Characteristics
•Turret Armor: 16mm Frontally inclined at 24°,16mm of armor plating on the sides inclined at 27° And 16mm of rear armor at a 22° incline
•Chassis Armor: 80mm of frontal armor inclined at 12°,30mm of side armor and 20mm of rear armor
Main armament: A 20mm Flakvierling 38 With a cadence of 800-900 and 3,200 projectiles
Secondary Armament: An MG34 with 1,350 bullets
•Crew: 5-6 (commander, gunner, 2-3 loaders, driver and radio operator)
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id argue br 2 potentially
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I can see it being BR2, with how vulnerable the turret armor is to even HMGs, the guns being magazine fed and not belt fed, and the inability to fight most tanks (assuming it’s given the standard low-pen PZGR, you could maybe reconsider BR3 if it has HVAP, which has close to 50mms of pen, but I don’t know if that would be a valuable enough upgrade to upgrade the BR with how thick armor is getting in allied tanks at these BRs). On the other hand though, people might say that it would be too good against planes at BR2, but considering how it would honestly be like tank destroyers, in that it exceeds in a certain niche (this being anti-aircraft power) but heavily lags behind in other areas compared to normal tanks (very much so armor and anti-tank ability), I think BR2 would be fine.
The game in general needs tech tree SPAAs for those that want to use them, and this is a good first step.
Here’s a link to the War Thunder wiki page with more info that would be relevant to the game, if anyone’s interested.
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I would love to see the Wirlbelwind, but as we know the Devs will insist on adding a clone for every other faction.
And I don’t think USSR/Japan had any more non-prototype tank-based mobile AA?
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Russians have the zsu37. Japan has the so ki.
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87 to 115 not for a tech tree without prototypes, I love it no you can’t use protos but I can add the is that had a few that hardly saw battle.
New standard
Is this new and unique
Was it an iconic weapon of ww2
Would it fit in the game and bring nit break balance
If that was the standard I would have voted yes
On the other hand was it used and built in numbers that fit ww2 nah na no no
Totally agree - plane spam is something which needs a vehicle to be countered for Germany
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The Wirbelwinds saw and are not prototypes And they earned their place in the TT
A lethal anti-aircraft weapon against enemy aircraft and infantry With its fearsome 20mm quadruple cannons
If it was used in large quantities, where did it see combat and cause enemy casualties It will help clear the skies of the pesky Allied CAS that has been plaguing Germans since 2021.
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Need to lock it at 45 degree angle so the vehicle crybabies don’t invalidate this
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It saw action it earned it’s place in the game not the tech tree
It doesn’t go prototype then above it any level of production
Tech tree is the highest level
They should be iconic weapons that changed the course of the war
I agree prototypes and rare exotic weapons don’t belong in the tech tree
Quad barrel flak definitely changed the course of bombers.
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And if the wirblewind was the first, or the developed it for it. That’s like sayingbthev50 cal was revolutionary so everything with a 50 cal should be included
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Wirbelwind won it, unlike Meteor, which didn’t see combat.
It is not a prototype and saw combat, and it had other variants that were also built and saw combat, just like the Wirbelwind.
You say that, but your prototypes, P-80, Meteor, and B-25 weren’t iconic, unlike the Wirbelwind, which became famous for its Monstrous 20mm cannons against infantry and tanks due to their firepower
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Not iconic German/Italian/axis weapons
Zh29
Kiraly m39
Armagureea 39
Vg2
Mkb,42h
Mp43/1
Mg81 infantry
Ke7
Fnab43
Both m1918
Mp2-3008
Pz3b
Re2000
Potez 633
Iar 81c
C202ec
Fiatg55
Fw190
R75
Berrera m1
Haha, you’re kidding yourself.
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wow 1 in 18 and so iconic the game only has one model
Wow those numbers have nothing to do with the video game
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then no numbers should matter it should be did it exist if so fair game