FlakPanzer IV "Wirbelwind" BR III

Remind me again what they were ?
Fg should not exist because small numbers equals gun that never was used ?

Murrica must have T20 because Fg but GE cant have equal or better planes because muh history.

One could probably spot a 1 double standard at there already but hey im all ears.

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Guess all this time I was trying to prove that asymetrical isn’t possible? Maybe.

For the record, here are some things I hope are added to this symetrical version of enlisted:

  • Sturmpanzer IV at BR III (it has the default panzer IV weakspot)
  • if allied BR 2 SMGs are not nerfed, then a quick firing ~30 rounds SMG ( Maybe the FNAB buff?)
  • Planes to rival allied / ussr low / high BR rocket spam (yes, like the FW 190 F9)
  • Stripper clip reload to SVT 38
  • Body armor problem
  • A buff to the german AT gun
  • KP-/31 SJR drum
    Of course, other factions would have to get something also, like:
  • T-44-100
  • fast firing machine gun that isn’t an event weapons for the USA
  • Jet balancing
    and many more

and of course many more. This is most likely from what I’ve seen being added, but I have suggested for the devs to speak about what directions the factions are going, then maybe the community could unify in their suggestions.

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I object for obvious reasons because this is the same issue as Super Pershing vs Tiger 2H when the Soviets already have the IS-2

From what I understand, the Stinger only has a high rate of fire for the use of an MG by the Infantry, so it

I agree with the rest, and these are changes I want to see. I’d also like to see more factions and more options for better customization of soldiers, APCs, tanks, and aircraft.Map and game mode selector to avoid leaving matches because you chose a map/game mode you don’t like Etc

No because the sp while being the best American us tank is ww2 is not as good as the kh2 or Ferdinand, why cause br3 r4 axis tanks can front pen it but us tanks can’t do the same
Because if we removed prototypes
Germany would have the only tt ar and a better sf
Fg42’not better than the m2 ask him many people complain about every thompson
Because attackers are used to counter tanks which the axis already has the best, tell me what does the axis need to counter on the ground it can’t already
Have fighters and aa better of both to shoot down attackers
But only the sp can pen the kh2 and Ferdinand
Everything it meets from Germany can kill the sp as long as you don’t aim for the gunshield

Plane > tank
Also, not sure how the tanks are supposed to resolve complete airsupremacy.

Well, unfortunately that is historical.
Which I believe was your argument regarding us planes being better.

Im just going to say planes.

Pretty sure both pershings were capable to frontally pen KH.

Yeah so aa and fighter can not counter fighters and attacker you’re people are strange
At I am betting the Pershing can only do so with ap or something without he which is crucial in game to guarantee first shot kills
Again I said German needs aa and fighter better ones the best
It does not need better attackers to kill p and sp

No, rather for infantry farming. US rarely spawns tanks as theyr cas is way better.

And because they don’t have a tank to farm infantry, us us planes because they have worse tamks

what did you decide in the end?)

the red one or the grey one?

So why did you object to this topic now if you do agree that they need better AA?

Are you afraid that the Wirbelwind with unbalance the tank vs tank with its at most 50 mm pen if not even less?

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The gray, I think general spite for German players calling just about everything fake, just venting sick of wheeraboo wining, yeah German needs more stuff but Germany already has more stuff German got front loaded by the game and everyone else has yet to catch up

It’s not that he’ll make an enemy Tank, it’s that he’ll make an enemy infantry with high-explosive shells…

Fake might be the wrong word but about as accuratewhen you concider 1 off weapons.
Dont expect to make demands that an rifle that was adopted and used be removed when you litterly have weapons that never left the proving grounds.

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The 20mm AA HE is nerfed to hell and really?
Shouldnt we then also remove machineguns from tanks aswell?
Because the 20mm are kinda just slow machine guns at this point.

I’m fine with both the fg42 and t20 where they are
Both where they are or both removed
I only want the fg42’ removed if the t20 is
Just not fine with a roll back
That is thompson andc m2 vs stg44:'and fg42 no that’s not ww2 not at least when bothe teams have equal numbers of planes tanks squads , ect the fg42 was rare a rare speadlist weapon, the t20 a prototype neither should be a tech tree rifle an weapon, or both should be tech tree and we can fight battle 1946 the wars where everybody has as many of the guns as they need

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Have you been playing with autocannons and land mines for a long time?
Personally, I just played a battle On the Soviet AA gaz and he carried the infantry forward with his feet)
And this is only one gun, the German has 4 of them.

just hop in a T-34 and make him cry then…
If opposed the AA would only turn into a liability.

Also

Highly suspect that you just were in a bot lobby at which point everything can look powerfull.
I already went on 100+ players killstreaks in the premium flame tanks but they are far from OP in actual matches.

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These images demonstrate that a real weapon (FG42) is not the same as a fake one (T20).

You’re simply not going to win this “argument”.

bots are everywhere, even for live players)
I’m glad you’ve played a lot, but it’s not the first Day either, the problem with such anti-aircraft guns will be the total annihilation of the infantry, of course it’s a matter of time before you find your own countermeasure for this, but until then, knowing the handiness of our average players, this thing will tear the infantry apart

it depends only on you How to apply them

from my practice, it will be a death machine, if you really want to strengthen AA capabilities, you should look Towards ostwind)