Estonian M1935 Mosin-Nagant

M1935
Hello bajtársak and fellow forumdwellers,

After the first world war, Estonia gained independence and inherited a large stock of mosin-nagant rifles from the Russian Empire thus becoming the standard issue rifle alongside the P14 Enfield.
The Estonian army seeking to improve its military started modernising these rifles and asked for assistance from Finland. Finland had already run a wide modernization program of their own mosin rifles and provided to Estonia M27 mosin rifles, technical information and the improved 7.62×53mmR which is interchangeable with the standard 7.62x54mmR.

The M1935 mosin-nagant was developed from both Finnish and domestic experience.
Featuring greatly improved sights, a two stage trigger and replaced barrel for accurate shooting.
The Estonians also copied the Mauser style sling for easier carry in the field however the M1935 does not have a bayonet lug on the rifle and thus cannot fit a bayonet as the rifle was intended for marksmen and long range combat.
The cartridge remained the standard 7.62x54mmR also used by the red army at the time.

In 1940 with the Soviet occupation of Estonia, the Estonian army alongside its M1935 rifles were absorbed into the Soviet red army, seeing use against Axis in WW2 then against Soviets by the Forest Brothers, Baltic freedom fighter resistance.

I think the Estonian M1935 mosin would best fit in the tech tree of the Soviet union as a BR2 rifle, giving the Soviet faction a mosin-nagant rifle worthy for BR2 and a great alternative over the Winchester 1895.

Would you like to see the Estonian M1935 in the Soviet tech tree?
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Really cant remember was it 7.62x53R with D166 bullet not interchangeable with regular M91 soviet moist nugget or wise versa.
And to make it slightly more confusing I think the civil guards had M27 or M29 ? of theyr own and had theyr own bullet for them.

il just leave this not fact checked tidbits here, just incase if someone wants to read about coop modernization of moist nuggets with finnish defence forces & civil guard.

That developement could be summarized as “Are you 12yr old”

and yes add this for sovjets.

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It’d be nice to see some Soviet states get better represented.

Sorry just some small correction, Estonia was independent until 1940 so the rifle was actually made in independent Estonia rather than the Soviet Union. Though these rifles did indeed later fall into Soviet hands (alongside poor Estonia).

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Still was a Soviet state by the time they were attacked by Germany. Maybe we could get an Estonian themed squad with it?

Sorry Im not really familiar with Finnish mosin rifles tbh so I cant answer these :sweat_smile:
Maybe if we should try summoning our respected Finnish brother, @iso_seppo123

yes, Estonia was a part of the Soviet Union by that time.
And also Estonians served in the German Heer in tens of thousands but they used German weapons rather than their own weapons which didnt have the necessary logistical supply chain anymore.

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Civil guards had m28 and m28/30. They were specifically designed for them and used the heavier d166 ammo. I believe the ammo was interchangable with older army rifles but it could damage the rifle over time.

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Are you seriously proposing to issue essentially a standard Mosin rifle from the vast selection of Soviet small arms developed during and before World War II?

For some oddity reason the murrican flag doesnt work on this, so finnish only.

Its a rabbit hole with all those markings.

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By the way… Estonia exchanged a domestically produced MP 28 for a Japanese Nambu Model 1 submachine gun (Type 1 in the game). I’m just saying this for information; I’m not suggesting that the USSR get a Japanese submachine gun.

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it is pretty damn unique, more unique than what Soviets would have.

you mean Tallinn Arsenal M23?

Yes.

interesting, I guess good event gun excuse.
Though I would actually prefer to see the Tallinn Arsenal in Soviet tech tree, would be nice to give them a 9mm gun.

Interesting site. So if i understood correctly civil guard rifles did not use d166 instead they used d108a. Finnish mosins are confusing

Yes, unless theres stamped D somewhere in receiver, in that case it should have wider barrel to accept d166.
If I recall even the stamped D caused arguments of where to stamp it.

In entirety, the co-op developement of new bullets + modernization of moist nuggets was much like two 12yrs arguing which has stronger dad.
And to make things even little bit more complicated the arguments we’rent only limited between
FDF and CG.
Both parties also had internal arguments.
Eventually, delaying the developement of m39 ukkopekka.
And L-39.

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