Do not add the PPSh-41 (S) to the tech tree

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The PPSh-41 (S) should not be included in the tech tree. There is little to no historical evidence of its use, let alone mass deployment. Making it a standard tech-tree weapon would misrepresent its historical obscurity.

This weapon would fill no balancing need, and no tactical niche that requires it’s inclusion in the game. Otherwise you’d be adding similar items to other tech trees too, but you’re not.

All other suppressed weapons in Enlisted, many of which were more common, are limited to events, premium squads, or the Battle Pass, as they should be. This preserves their rarity and reflects their limited real-world use these types of weapons actually saw.

This is not a balance concern. It’s about maintaining historical authenticity. The tech tree should represent widely-issued, documented gear unless balance absolutely demands otherwise.

Keep suppressed weapons special, do not add one to the tech tree!

Update:

This post now has more support than many official announcements, with no staff response despite tags and replies. We respectfully ask the developers/community-managers for an official comment on this matter, as this is clearly an issue the community cares deeply about.

Update 2:

Post has now been forwarded, chances are low for action but we remain hopeful.

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This must come to pass before the update, because after that it’ll be too late to do anything about it.

Please everyone, this is not a question of game balance, it’s about game feel, respect this in your replies and do not bring it up.

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It should come with a full event or premium squad …

But I fear it’s too late…

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Not yet, the update is not out, there is still time to drum up support!

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Fuck yes, but considering how popular the GO shop was and they still got rid of it, Im a bit hopeless for this.

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Sort of agree on this one, feel stronger anout the Jap carbine though

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Even worse, there is no evidence of it ever existing

And none of the CMs/helpers care to provide any

With this approach literally any single picture from the internet can be deemed valid to be added to the tech tree

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You know what, yes, you’re right on that one too, just like the PPSh-41 (S) this M2 should really be a event drop or something.

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If this is the new standard, I might as well drop HoI4 icons on here as suggestions…

There’s this Canadian semi-auto rifle in the Kaiserreich mod that looks really cool…

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The devs were really smoking something with this one

Something like a 550 rpm 7.0 damage smg or 20rd select fire rifle (what the russian forum has been begging for for several years) for the soviets? Nah, lets add a random paper weapon (literally copy-pasted from a BP one) and a premium copy-pasted tank for the Germans!

This is such a disgrace. A slap in the face to all people that bought the premium content and all the people that worked hard on suggesting real and needed weaponry.

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If they want to add the fictitious SSh-41 (:shushing_face:) to the game it should be an event squad or premium squad weapon.

They honestly could have just created an event to go along with the upcoming update, and add a Japanese Guerilla squad with the “M2” Sawed Off + a Soviet Guerilla squad with the SSh-41 (:shushing_face:) as rewards for the event…but nah…nah

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And yet, Gajin/Darkflow said “fuck that” and HAD to make Soviet Bias real by adding the ONLY SUPPRESD WEAPON YOU CAN RESEARCH TO THEM. It’s honestly the stupidest thing I’ve ever seen besides them adding jets to this game

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ppsh(shit) :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

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Yet again DF shoots themselves in the foot, because the best candidates for other factions (Sten Mk II (S), M3 SMG for the UK/US respectively, MP 40 for Germany) are all already in the game as event or Gold Order content.

What can they do?

Move these to the tech tree? I mean, not entierly opposed to event stuff (less so GO) being moved but there’s definetly arguments against it.

Add more bullshit to the tech tree? Just why… you didn’t have to do this in the first place, it’s a problem you yourself created…

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You feel like the smoke is cool, I feel like a suppressed ppsh-41 is cool
it makes the game feel nice :wink:

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Its cute people still use this as argument while we have mass deployed uragans and what else.

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You really were personally offended, and petty enough to show it?

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How boring

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I… i have to say i do like the silenced PPSH :face_with_open_eyes_and_hand_over_mouth:

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And you know what? Yes! It’s cool!

But it shouldn’t be in the tech tree.

It’s clearly already in a working state (hence play testing), best solution is to use it in a event after the update drops. It would still be free and it wouldn’t be in the tech tree, everybody wins!

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