Changes to MG-42 + MG-42-100 (increase the ROF to the historical correct 1,500rounds per minute)

:white_check_mark: weapon type:

MG-42 + MG-42-100

:white_check_mark: BR:

BattleRating IV = MG-42-100
BattleRating V = MG-42-100

:white_check_mark: suggested changes:

increase the ROF to 1,500

:white_check_mark: reason:

MG-42 and MG-42-100 have the wrong ROF. It was capable of shooting 25 rounds / sec = 1,500rounds per minute

:white_check_mark: proofs:

technical weapon description for the MG-42 and (see screenshot 2) the note that it could fire 25 rounds per second (equivalent to 1,500 rounds/minute)


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:white_check_mark: final statement:

I ask you (Gaijin) to make changes to the ROF to that it the ROF of 1,500.

  • Yes
  • No
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We won’t need it
We all know Mg42 can have different ROF when using different bolt

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There are enough people here who deny historical facts. That’s why I did.

huh?
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Form 900 to 1500 ROF is all correct
You should suggest add another MG42 version than touching existing ones

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choosing wikipedia over a real technical weapon handbook :laughing:

Everyone knows 1200 was standard.

Its crazy how many people think Wikipedia is a bad source.

Tons of political Propaganda in Wikipedia yes - but technical and historical details about weapons seems very accurate.

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960 rpm with no muzzle booster
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Like I said you can find differnet ROF on MG42 when using defferent setup, there’s no “the only correct” ROF

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I prefer the handbook from that country which designed the weapon.

And adjusting the rate of fire makes significantly more sense than throwing a handful of variants of each weapon into the game.

@GeneralBrus I know that ROF of 1,200 was standard. However I decided to choose 1,500. I can live with the fact, if Gaijin change the ROF to 1,200 but I cannot live with the fact of having 990

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I agree and voted yes.
According to the manual, 1,500 rounds per minute is kinda canon, and 1,200 rounds per minute, was already considered a low rate of fire.

No
That’s why you get mostly no in the pull
Don’t touch the thing that others have get used of it, especially when you don’t have a definitive argument as to why such a change should be made, as I said, the current 990 ROF is already historical. The fact that the MG42 can fire at 1500 ROF in particular setup doesn’t mean you will want it always to be like that in reality and games.

@BUGFINDER

Calling you as weapon expert. Wanna say something to that? :wink:

Stop acting like the current rof isn’t HA, lol.

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About MG-42 fire rate. The @_DELAVR (What would we do without him.) already made a post on Ru-Forum.

I decided to find out more about the firing rate of the MG 42. I have heard many times on the forum that the machine gun had different types of bolts, which varied in weight, which could affect the firing rate. I even saw a suggestion that in the game, before the battle, it would be possible to choose between a “light” or “heavy” bolt.
Wikipedia and various neural networks also mention this, but I was unable to find a “light” or “heavy” bolt.
In turn, in the instructions for the MG 42, I did not find a single mention of any special bolts for a firing rate of 900 rounds per minute; moreover, the instructions specified a normal firing rate of 25 rounds per second (1500 rounds per minute).
A document on the problem of powder gas contamination states that the MG 42, firing at a rate of about 1100-1200 rounds per minute, should be considered unusually slow.
The rate of fire of the MG 42 was adjusted by rotating the coupling in the muzzle, thereby increasing and decreasing the amount of gas escaping, i.e., it was possible to adjust the recoil force of the barrel, which directly affected the rate of fire. This allowed the rate of fire to be adjusted within a range of 1200-1500 rounds per minute.

Yes, MG-42 need to get his real fire rate of 1500 or at least 1200 shots per minute.

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Actually, I used to quote the same.

But apparently, that’s only a post war practice, there is zero evidence that MG 42s were modified in the field to this extent during the war. German training or doctrine manuals would otherwise bear this out, and they don’t.

Best thing you can do (and I have argued this in the past) is to argue that due to wartime conditions (changes in production methods, quality of metals, inentional sabotage by enslaved factory workers, etc) that bolt weights varried massively between some guns, and that company officers might assign different tasks to specific guns under their command that best suited their exact rate of fire.

Of course, we have no evidence of this though.

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Btw, Isn’t the use of different types of bolts a feature of the MG-3, which appeared much later than World War II? The MG-42 never had anything like that, did it?

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Correct, the physical and mechanical principles are the same (basicly the same weapon), but we have no evidence that this was ever practiced during the war.

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Prove to the court that the use of differently weighted bolts was a historical practice from the war.

I used to believe this was the case, but there is no evidence that the practice existed during the war, only after.

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@Аврора2003 2003 found some interesting documents, for which we thank her. These documents state: The rate of fire of 900 apparently refers to the MG 34, while the MG 42 has a rate of fire of ~1500.
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this.