The new Suomi premium flamethrowers currently sits at BR 5 but under preforms due to the flamethrower under barrel attachment having the BR 3 damage and range stats. I’m proposing that the flamethrower be brought in line with the BR 4 stats (or at least the higher damage) to make it viable in BR 5.
Should the Suomi flamethrower be buffed to BR 4 flamethrower stats?
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The flamer soumi really suffers from an identity crisis.
Once you are in flamethrower range you also have a perfectly fine bullet hose that does the same job faster. And if you arent in flamer range odds are your gun wont be at a good range either.
Yes, When you have the option
Agreed, not quite an assaulter because no ammo pouches and terrible perk points but not quite a flamethrower either.
There’s no need to buff this squad at all.
You have a squad consisting of a smg engineer, an anti-tank soldier, and soldiers who can be equipped with both the BR5 submachine gun and the SFR at the same time - which is very unique in itself.
The flamethrower is just added gimmick for fun on top of that.
They should rather do something about AT soldier wearing both gasmask and face protector when he is equipped with Ofenrohr. It’s ridiculous. And people shouldn’t be forced to spend their gold/appearance orders to correct it.
It’s advertised as a flamethrower squad so it should be at least usable in BR 5. Right now it’s just an underwhelming flamethrower assulter hybrid.
To call this squad underwhelming is pure delusion. With the clear intention of undermining its performance in an attempt to push for completely unnecessary buffs…
If it’s not usable in BR5 for you, that’s pure skill issue on your side.
Unless, for course, you think of anything that’s not being top tier meta as of being unusable. But that would just be your misguided perception of reality.
It’s literally fact dude. It’s a BR 3 flamethrower in BR 5 with an SMG that can’t have an ammunition pouch and sub par perks on the soldier. It’s mediocre at best.
You’re delusional if you think you can even close the distance before being melted by BR 5 weapons.
No clue how a range and damage buff would make it top tier meta when flamethrowers aren’t even top tier or meta 
The Suomi with a flamethrower is absolute garbage right now. What are you talking about, friend? We have two absolutely irrelevant things: fire and a pistol round for BR5. I think that fact alone is enough. I’ve thrown that piece of junk out and started looking for my own setup. Regular premium Italians with flamethrower are much better; at least they could be given a Carcano and sent to BR4.
You can easily take out enemies on longer distances with Suomi/PPSH like SMGs, to claim otherwise is total fallacy.
Not to mention, as I have already said few posts above, these soldiers can be equipped with SFRs - if you are somehow not capable of effectively using Suomi on longer distances - which is pure skill issue in my opinion.
It would immediately became the best flamethrower squad you could take into BR5, even overperforming legacy premium flamethrowers - simply for being more versatile.
And I have no clue why premium squad should be the best of its kind. That’s literally definition of pay to win. And it would be top tier meta in its class.
The reality is that this squad is definitely not in need of buff, it’s already decent.
Once there are proper TT BR5 flamethrower squads that would outperform/be on par with this one. Only then I would argue it could be buffed.
If it’s in br5 then it should have the br4 flame stats. It’s quite simple. Flamers aren’t even that potent. It also takes extremely long time to switch gun modes. If it was instantaneous i would be less pushy about it. But there’s currently the premmy flamers that actually have br4 stats. They can also equip SF rifles? And there’s there’s the premmy suomi squad. Currently it almost makes more sense to bring the two of those than this one.
There’s no such precedence. That’s just your dogmatic statement backed by literally no meaningful arguments whatsoever.
Yes, with exactly the same ammo pool as the new squad has. It’s just that they don’t have another SMG, which has an extra ammo pool.
It seems ridiculous to me that you don’t see the difference.
You throw skill issue around a lot for an average player. You’re doubling down and in denial about facts. Even others are bringing up valid points. Buffing it won’t make it top tier, meta or pay to win. There’s plenty of things in the TT that out class this squad.
What’s the point of the Suomi’s fire if it’s literally incapable of killing? The new AVS36 20, for example, does the same thing at close range and even better. The AVS36 is truly universal. The Suomi, on the other hand, is a universal piece of junk that sucks at everything.
It seems ridiculous to me that you don’t see the obvious. If you want to use an smg squad the premmy soumi is better, if you want to use flame squad the premmy flame squad is better. This hybrid is not as good. As one or the other. It’s pure gimmick. You loose out on massive ammo reserves for the smg, you say the flame thrower makes up for it, but it’s the br3 version so it’s worse! The only reason it’s in br5 is because of the smg. Without it, it would be br3. Therefore it should have the br4 flame stats. The fact that it’s br5 is all the valid argument it needs to be justified. It’s a effing novelty item.
You’ve just reinforced my point. If I, an average player, can use the Suomi effectively at longer ranges, then it really is a skill issue if someone else can’t do the same 
Not really, on contrary, that’s you who have literally have o further arguments, just double downing on your try to push for powercreep.
You are in denial of reality.
We are speaking of flamethrower squad, as you have said on your own:
So I have no clue why are you not comparing to its flamethrower squad counterparts.
Ohhh… Wait… I have… Because then you would have to admit you are pushing for powercreep. As there would be no better flamethrower squad you could take into BR5.
Anyway, I’m not going to waste any more time on this discussion. I have already said my points.
It’s up to devs to decide. I really don’t need to win you over.
I do disagree, the smg itself is definitely br5 worthy. Love the premmy assaulter squad. It’s just the half ass version of it sucks
It depends on the strength of the players you’re playing against. Against weak players, yes; against strong players, any submachine gun on BR5 is absolute garbage. Even if auto rifles are nerfed in the future, as they were on the test server, submachine guns will be the worst weapon on BR5 for the following reasons:
But you can’t use it effectively at long ranges and win fights against mid range BR 5 weapons 
so stop kidding yourself.
No one is pushing for power creep…… myself and the others have given you many reasons and facts to why it should be buffed and all you’re doing is spewing stubborn nonsense like a toddler.
If you don’t need to win me over, why bother commenting? 
don’t let the door hit you on the way out champ.