The Type 17 is still chambered in .45 ACP
The M1923 has the same long barrel but chambered in a powerful cartridge.
Here’s the result(damage)
M1921 : 8.2
Type 17 : 8.8 (longer barrel)
M1923 : 9.6 (longer barrel & powerful cartridge )
Then you’d have to axe half the TT
A longer barrel doesn’t mean more damage at 10m. It means less damage drop off at distance.
Last time i checked we don’t have a thompson in game like this. So you’re argument is based around something that doesn’t even exist here.
Good luck convincing the next guy. I’m against it all. Find some prototypes or something and you’ll have my support. Hell, I’d even be more inclined to back a chinese capture weapon that ISN’T a thompson.
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Because I was telling you that America & Soviet still has better options for them , that’s way I choose these guns for Japan.
To suggest about new weapons, sometimes we have to estimate its damage due to its barrel length, caliber or muzzle velocity. At least we can know that the M1923 is more powerful compare to the .45 ACP
Thompson.
Besides, I don’t see anything wrong with making predictions based on weapons that we already have.
Here’s an example
I feel like you’re just looking for reasons to argue with me. You said that captured weapons would be too powerful for Japan, so I pointed out that the Allies still have better options that could be added to the game. Then you told me that my argument was based on weapons that don’t even exist 
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It was just one point that i touched on, not the main one. The main ones are not wanting to see more thompsons in other TTs and captured weapons in general.
And if japan got a stronger thompson than U.S. it would mean ANOTHER thompson would have to go to U.S. to have the better one. The U.S. TT is bloated with thompsons. For the longest time it’s all we had from br3 to br5. I really don’t care to see another one anytime soon.
I’m just stating my opinion on it. Has nothing to do with trying to beat you down. Again, if you find a unique chinese smg that fits the game for japan, I’d be all for it, along with any one off prototypes.
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Im open to the Type 17 but are there any other Japanese, Manchuko, Thai or captured Chinese weapons we could consider instead?
Even a Dutch weapon (captured) if necessary rather than just giving Japan Thompsons.
The Fedorov Id prefer not cause I wouldnt want to see Japanese soldiers running around with Soviet weapons (Thompsons I can deal with a little since Japan did buy some pre war).
Any more Tokyo Arsenal weapons or something?
The Thompson sounds good; honestly I prefer the Type 17, but given its rate of fire, it would fit better as an event LMG. As an LMG, it could be BR2 or BR3. The Fedorov is a 50/50, they could easily just buff the damage of the Type Hei automatic, which might even be a better option, or perhaps introduce an assault version with a 20-round capacity, free from the 150-round maximum limit.
LMGs, in general, are another area that needs attention; the Type 98/1 and Type 92 aren’t in the game yet.
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I think that’s relatively how it goes; if I recall correctly, the G43 Kurz deals slightly more damage due to its longer barrel. The same applies to the pistols, their damage typically doesn’t exceed 6 points.
The kurz does 10 damage. Weapons are first given a damage range based on the class of weapon it is. We have bolt actions doing over 20 damage with semi autos doing 15, with MGs doing 13 damage even though they all shoot the same bullet. Weapon class takes priority, then calliber and bullet specs may change damage slightly beyond that. Longer barrel in real life increases damage at range, not up close (of course I’m not talking about a 1" barrel vs 15" barrel. Any gun with no barrel at all will have bad damage up close)
I get the point, but to put it simply, the barrel thing could just be a reason or an excuse to buff the damage.
The VG1-5, for instance, is relatively similar to the G43 Kurz; there are notable differences, sure, but both are rifles.
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The best solution would be the premium Asano Squad, armed with Fedorov’s Avtomats.
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Yes I can respect a premium squad just wouldnt want TT where like half the enemy team has non Japanese weapons.
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If half the team is willing to sacrifice authenticity for the sake of efficiency, it suggests that the Japanese weapons are currently too weak and in need of improvement.
Well I play BR III so idk but Im pretty happy with Japanese weapons, like MP28 to me is a beast cause its got 50 rounds.
Germany which invented the gun doesnt get that.
Bunch of Yanks or Russians come along and I can just keep firing and firing and firing until theyre all gone.
I love the ROF of the Type 100 late I think its called too.
Rifles are quite good, semi auto ones suck but then show me a good semi auto in Enlisted (other than premiums)
This only works against bots and beginners. The MP-28 isn’t capable of outgunning any decent player.
This weapon is better, but it sorely lacks the damage needed to compensate for its low bullet velocity.
Fedorov self-loading rifle, SVT-38.
I agree the SVT38 is the best one but still not great power.
Fedorov is alright, recoil not ideal.
Most of the game are bots so LOL for MP28.
You can defeat bots even with a knife. But wouldn’t it be a shame to lose to a worthy opponent just because you’re holding a piece of junk?
I’m fine adding additional weapons to the Japanese arsonal, but please, no more Thompsons’s, I think they already have two Thompson variants already. As far as using captured Soviet weapons for Japan? How many weapons could they have theoretically captured and used in the less then one month they actually fought the Soviets? 
If the Japanese had some of these weapons then I would support adding them.
Japan is easily the most difficult faction to supply arms to.
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No fewer than the sawed-off M2 carbines.
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