Yet another historical accuracy topic

Custom games.

As secondary option ? Well I dont see why since theres Custom games.
Nor I dont think its reasonable to waste resources on something that 1-3 ppl are intrested of.
Other than that, Dont really care.

I dont u have custom games where u can larp.

And u have custom games where you can exactly do that ?

You cant force me to use it you silly you

And why don’t you use custom games?

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But I guess you have some sekrit dokuments that support your point.

I hope this is sarcasm but I can imagine people being smooth brain enough to think this way.

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depends on campaign, side and time of day… sometimes i get match in seconds and sometimes i wait for minute and a half. and that is with queue MM which just gathers first 20 players who enter queue (if possible). if you want historical accuracy and equipment based MM then you would need to have at least 18 MM running simultaneously from current 6. and that is only on premise that they put 3 groups of weapons (low, mid and high) for every campaign. if you want human vs human battles, it is almost impossible to have that kind of MM without influx of very large number of players.

I dont have to as majority prefers the arcade. Rather simple isnt it ?

Well obviously hes speaking of ā€œhistorical accuracyā€ of arcade side. Which never existed in first place so idk whats your point ?

except,

custom games are half baked.

then you don’t really have a worth opinion in the first place.

because you don’t even know the state of custom games.

?

once again, custom games are not there for that and do not allow historical settings anyway.

now, since you are the usual strawman when it comes to argument, i’ll give you this one.

custom games could be upgraded as an alternative, but it would require a huge rework.

and xps are the first ones.

which they are doing, but… neither mods can do wonders without the right tools.

so… yeah, you do not speak for everyone.

neither those " 1 - 3 " that you speak of.

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So numbers vs trust me bro.

Yeah sure.

My point is that vocal minority is against it while they pretend they have support of infinite number of players (that are based on trust me bro).

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Didnt they say they will work on it ?

Ah I see, so im not allowed to have opinion about larping games unless im agreeing with you ?

No I dont, because im not intrested to shoot bots with BA’s.
And I suppose quite many share the same view as there aint much ppl on your historically accurated custom games ?

Didnt you exactly say you were working on some of that silly thing ?

Okay and now explain me how come the ā€œmatchmakerā€ your asking wouldnt require said work ?

Yeah, thats a shame you cant have same XP for slaughtering bots as you get by playing against players.

Okay so they are working on it so whats the problem ?

But you do ?

Okay so, which one has more players the regular arcade matchmake or custom historical accuracy lobbies in customs.
humour me

This kinda sounds like description of history larpers.

Are there any?

Hypocrisy lvl 100
Btw I still wait for some numbers that support your claims. Or maybe you don’t have any?

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that’s the other point.

historical accurate battles can be a niche.

and there are definitely titles out there that can stand.

the problem in enlisted is, as much you advertise your self as one, yet have no remote feature as such, no wonder why we don’t have an historical accurate and present community.

people see how arcady it is, decide to step in another direction.

which, the opposition on historical accuracy are not the same dogs as the other guy wants to make everyone believe.

yes they are working on it.

but custom games are buggy and xp cap is a sirious issue that i don’t expect for you to understand.

no. your opinions means nothing if you are an external and just disregard everything the opposition has to say without using logic or even have basic experience with custom games. which you proven countless time to prove.

except, you can try to think as simple as you want, too bad that’s not what happens.

the majority DO NOT prefer arcady over milsim/realistic or even historically accuracy.

that is FORCED upon.

" b a h, everything is arcady. everyone uses smgs so it’s fine ".
that is the definition of a straw argument.

because people are forced to use unistorical stuff to grind and having to compete those who do not respect historical settings and what not.

i am, and i did.

too bad it’s currently being undermined by people like you that are too naive and only think for their selves rather than the whole picture or thinking outside the box.

on that, i think its simple to see.

because custom games again weren’t meant for historical settings.

and still aren’t.

even if you would put the restriction levels you would still have issues related to the custom games system.

the custom games problems.

as someone who has to play with the arcady bs ( and partially be neutral about it ) i do respect and see what historical advocate are standing for.

and they have all rights to demand a gamemode for them. as i would like to remind that this is what partially was advertized for. and still somewhat is.

let alone a reason why so many people got hooked up in the alpha.

but were you there?.

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well there should be thousands of them if your numbers of historical accuracy ppl is correct.

Well thats estimate and I personally think its rather overestimated but anyway.

and here is current custom games.
Not a single historically accurated lobby and not too many of players anyway.

Either way, im not asking for historical accuracy game mode. So Im quite sure the burden of prove remains in your hands.

i can’t tell if you are actually stupid, or pretend to be.

again, farting words for the sake of it.

maybe, if you actually started to mod and use custom games, you would know why that is not possible.

how about this, how about you make a custom game with historical settings. doesn’t have to be perfect, but at least try it.

and then come back talking about it.

because right now, you are just farting in the wind as they say.

and i don’t mean to be hostile.

And they are working on the custom games so wipe off those tears.

No its not. If there actually was so many historical larp derpers as you claim they sure would have own lobbies were they choose to use historical accurated stuff.

Is there ? No.

Well thats the game and your asking something entirely different.

Aaaand custom games.

I dont really care what you do in custom games. Want my little pony mod ? Go for it.

Which they are working on cupcake. Im quite sure there are bigger issues in the game regarding entire playerbase than 1-3 history larpers modding problems.

No you dont, if theres such countless amount of ppl intrested of your history larping, Im sure you can have historical accurated lobbies regardless it couldnt be forced upon.

Sure you can demand what ever you want. Dont expect everyone to agree with you just because you think your somehow special.

No and do I give a fk ? No.

well, quite condescending on my part, but yeah.

in order to save time, i’ll tell you why the reason currently there is no way to make historical mods or settings.

first of all, settings are not a thing yet for limiting what players can and cannot use.

therefore, you resort to mods.

cool.

but what happens?

custom profile bots do works. meaning that you can turn the bots loadouts into actual historical accurate units on the battlefield.

what about the players?

yeah. what about the players.

that is currently not possible because for some reason, it’s not whitelisted.

meaning that, modders or custom games hosters are not able to moderate what players brings on the battlefield.

the closest you can get, are the custom games with mods that uses the event profiles. but those are not historical accurate.

the other reason why you don’t see historical matches is because of mods.
not everyone is able to mod ( as you and many others have proven ) and mods after every update breaks every time.

meaning that a MM into an actual supported thing by devs would be better.

so… yeah you tell me.

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Your speaking of this larpping shit like its the next CSGO. YET you have provided nothing that would actually backup your arguments.
Theres no small community doing historical accurated battles in poor custom conditions or anything.
Nothing.

Im happy with the arcade part so dont really care for your larpping.
And the fact you managed to make sandbag in modding tool doesnt exactly give you credibility what comes to coding of the game.

Lobby, name it as historical accurated, set password ask hundreds of thousands of your historical accurated larpper friends to join.
Surely if this community of yours is so significant as you claim shouldnt be issue to fill those lobbies.

Funny could have said exactly same since theres absolutely 0 prove of this massive playerbase of historical larppers that is so significant its worth the effort and time to make them own game mode.

they advertised themselves as MMO also…

like i said before all problem in enlisted stem from lack of playerbase… if there was enough playerbase you could have balanced games and historically accurate battles. but there is not enough playerbase so developers were forced to choose one or the other. if they wanted to keep historical battles, they would need to keep different MM queues for every campaign and that is simply not manageable specially if they add new campaigns. so simplification based on rating is next best thing. at least they will gain weapon/vehicle balance.
my speculation is that they will probably put certain ranges of BR into specific campaigns (so low BR would give moscow, low-mid BR for pacific, mid BR would give stalingrad/tunis and high BR would give normandy/berlin). will this be 100% historically accurate? no, but it will be the next best thing (probably over 90% accuracy).

i barely share simpanthy for closed minded people like your self, let alone " tears ".

and should i cry for someone that barely wants to understand someone else argument?

don’t make me laugh.

i wonder why chief.

maybe, if you would use your brain and actually start using the mods, you would know why.

no. that’s not what the game used to be nor what i asked.

not that difficult to understand.

and i’m not gonna pretend to be some old granny spitting out " d u r i n g m y t i me s " whether has shifted or moved away, that’s fine. but keep a place for those who originally were interested on how it was ( and how was advertized for ).

i’m starting to believe you are missing some brain cells. honestly.

how can someone be this dumb it’s beyond my imagination.

ah yes, talking about potatoes lets mix them with carrots.

keep at it my dude.

you’re making wonders.

but that’s not the case because we do not have historically lobbies due to the core issues.

the same applies to you my friend.

except, we at least tried to reason with.

then. don’t talk about stuff that you don’t know.

that’s the general rule of thumb.

but i suppose you haven’t learned that.

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Yet

i did. yet you fail to either see it, or realize it.

there are.

yet those few are minen with problems to a point where others refuse to try as it requires too much of a hussle due to the lack of management and settings options.

putting words in my mouth i see.

but unlike you, i have somewhat a bit of experience and i’m telling you why it’s not duable.

rather than you sitting on your ass and say " c-c-custom matches- d u h ".

that’s why you don’t see them i nthe first place.

because it doesn’t have to be massive?

if you want numbers, look at the other titles. people that could come in this one as well if proper in place ā€œthingsā€ people that would come here as well, starting to those who are already here.

also, i highly doubt you can know exactely what 35 000 people that plays this game knoes. let alone the majority not using the forum so…

which, just because they don’t talk or do not engage with your non sense, doesn’t mean they don’t exist and aren’t there. it’s kinda that simple.

so yes. i stand by it.

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And miliards if arcade ppl are correct.

Maybe because there are next to no tools to make one?

I know that HA lobbies will be less popular than arcade ones. But less =/= dead. If 30% of the playerbase wahts HA lobby, then it’s worth the effort.

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