But why? Do none of you want this game to be independent?
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it already is in enlisted, i was just making counter argument about your argument that it uses CPU resources and lowers fps. my argument is that external voip mostly doesnt affect fps in modern systems (doesnt matter if PC or console).
and you clearly dont know that there is report button that spams devs. just as forums are moderated, they would need to moderate the voip. also you can get sanctions for text chat, but that is much easier to check than voice.
voip is necessity in competitive games, while it is not in casuals. TF2, Gmod and Portal inherited voip from HL/source. borderlands and dying light are coop and probably have mechanisms for host to kick players and idk about sea of thieves.
games that have voip also need moderators. in early days of fps it was easy cause you had private servers, but now with devs hosting servers they also need to moderate them.
no voip = no moderation = no extra cost for hosting servers.
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If so, why don’t I hear the lobby speaking while in a match?
Why would you take the extra hassle of reporting when you can just press mute?
No, not necessarily. You can do just fine without it in Battlefield etc. It is a matter of forming a bond with other people and what creates memories. It is why games like MW2 are still being mentioned and looked back upon by so many people. It is the same reason Battle Bit became so prevalent for a time.
If you want your game to be remembered, you ought to be trying to make this game memorable. Things like overpriced transactions and toxic whales are precisely what people forget. Verbal human-to-human interaction is something that is never forgotten.
Patriot Act - Wikipedia
Devs don’t need to, the Feds are doing just fine.
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like i said it is there for stacks. that way you can say whatever you want to your friends and devs dont need to do anything.
cause people are assholes. also people may do something against the law in which case devs would need to act on it.
and usa is the only country in the world…
They wouldn’t need to do anything anyway if it wasn’t that way because the Feds can do it themselves.
There is nothing that a quick phone call from a gamer to a police station can’t solve. If it is actually serious, the Feds will sneak in anyway, so no need for devs.
European Hate Speech Laws :: The Legal Project (legal-project.org)
- Denmark: Article 266(b) of the Danish Criminal Code criminalizes “expressing and spreading racial hatred”, making it an offense to use threatening, vilifying, or insulting language intended for the general public or a wide circle of persons. In 2001, several Danish politicians were convicted under this provision for allegedly making “anti-Islamic” statements. More recently, in June 2010, the Danish crown prosecutor sought to lift MP Jesper Langballe’s parliamentary immunity so that he could face charges under Article 266(b) for publishing an article about the creeping “Islamisation of Europe” and the subjugated status of Muslim women.
France : France’s principal piece of hate speech legislation is the Press Law of 1881, in which Section 24 criminalizes incitement to racial discrimination, hatred, or violence on the basis of one’s origin or membership (or non-membership) in an ethic, national, racial, or religious group. A criminal code provision likewise makes it an offense to engage in similar conduct via private communication.
- The Netherlands: Long considered a bastion for the freedom of thought and expression, Holland has today joined in the European retreat on free speech. Together, Articles 137(c) and 137(d) of the Dutch Criminal Code operate to prohibit making public intentional insults, as well as engaging in verbal, written, or illustrated incitement to hatred, on account of one’s race, religion, sexual orientation, or personal convictions. The most prominent hate speech case to date is that of politician Geert Wilders, who was indicted by the public prosecutor in 2009 for his public comments about Muslims and Islam, and his release of a short film documenting inflammatory passages in the Qur’an.
- United Kingdom: Sec. 18(1) of the Public Order Act of 1986 (POA) states that “a person who uses threatening, abusive, or insulting words or behaviour, or displays any written material which is threatening, abusive, or insulting, is guilty of an offence if: a) he intends to thereby stir up racial hatred, or; b) having regard to all the circumstances racial hatred is likely to be stirred up thereby.” Among the panoply of other British hate speech laws is Section 5 of the POA, which makes it a crime to use or display threatening, abusive, or insulting words “within the hearing or sight of a person likely to be caused harassment, alarm, or distress thereby.” Indeed, it was under this incredibly low threshold that Christian hoteliers Ben and Sharon Vogelenzang, accused by a Muslim patron of calling Muhammad a “warlord”, were charged, but ultimately acquitted, in 2009. Conversely, Harry Taylor, an atheist who placed drawings satirizing Christianity and Islam in an airport prayer room, was convicted in April 2010 under Section 5 and given a six-month prison sentence.
Do you want me to do Germany’s next?
I think this is a better compromise instead of having Server voice chat.
The squad mechanic that we have right now needs an upgrade - Suggestions - Enlisted
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I like this. It would still be nice to hear my enemies while I am t-bagging while they are downed.
Let’s have baby steps first before we start a fire
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that is only for premades not with randos
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do you know that you quoted exact problem of it all. different countries have different law. what is illegal in one country may not be illegal in another.
look at example of hate speech. in USA it is protected under free speech, while in europe it is not.
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Actually a sizable portion of us speak Spanish. I don’t personally, but it is the second most common language here similarly to French in Canada I believe. Other than that though the overwhelming abundance of English speakers for literal thousands of miles negates any need for the average American to learn another language. Much unlike Europe where you drive for 30 minutes and passed over 3 borders and several regions with 5+ distinct languages. Which as far as I can tell is only a slight exaggeration. Lol
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As it should be, but anything illegal (terroristic threats, threatening to shoot up schools, etc) is not. If you read the Patriot Act, you would know that the Feds go into anything they want knowingly or unknowingly, for “our protection”. All Darkflow needs is a non-liable clause in their TOS in Enlisted and they are fine. It is then up to the Feds to actually do their job since they have all the resources to stop mass shootings threats etc.
Florida Teen Arrested For Making School Shooting Threat On Discord (buzzfeednews.com)
“I Dalton Barnhart vow to bring my fathers m15 to school and kill 7 people at a minimum,” the teen wrote in a Minecraft chat
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I am soon to be part of the fluent sizable portion lol.
Nice dude
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and they do that when people report it. they dont monitor all traffic on internet cause it is simply not possible. also there is problem of jurisdiction specially cause this is multinational game. what are you going to do to a russian that is making terroristic threats on US server? can feds do anything about it? what about iranian? or for any other citizien of nation hostile to the US. feds can do absolutely nothing to them.
yes cause TOS are be all and end all. there were many times where companies were punished despite their TOS cause what they did was against the law. section 230 only protects US companies and US servers.
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They do it when infiltrating as well.
They are also professionals at entraping specific groups of people.
Bizarre arrest of FBI agent spotlights accusations of bureau corruption (nypost.com)
Ivan is drunk and won’t do crap. Everything that is happening in the US is homegrown or Islamic. For some reason, the feds care more about Ivan than Muhammad (he has camps here ISIS Camp a Few Miles from Texas, Mexican Authorities Confirm | Judicial Watch ).
Putin most likely has a backdoor (pre-made or blow a hole in the wall) into Darkflow, so it won’t matter.
It does not matter if they make threats unless there is evidence they have contacts in the US planning something and planning to come here. They can say one thing, but it means nothing if they aren’t doing what they said. If there was an actual plot carried along with the threat, the Feds knew about it and had the choice to act. What happens then is on them.
Then they can’t do crap to them. Sure, they could get a warrant for the NA servers, but there won’t be any actual serious terrorists on here anyway. All the serious terrorists play FIFA and CSGO.
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i wont go over your post cause it is mostly muh FBI mighty, muh america great. like i said problem is in international law and with lots of countries that have laws against hate speech and not just terrorism. you can easily put filter in text chat, but you cant do that in voice chat.
also if you want to see what could happen to unmoderated site/app just look at parler. amazon cited TOS where they can block services if user of their cloud service doesnt moderate their content. yeah i know that there was bigger political play behind that ban, but it is legitimate TOS violation for cloud service provider.
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It is not about them being mighty or great; it is a matter of them acting on actual threats of violence, not letting it happen, and then bringing out the reports showing the families of the deceased that they knew this guy was going to do it the entire time.
Also, remember who first discovered what a serial killer is; meanwhile, the rest of the world was still in the stone age at that point in terms of psychology. Remember who wiretapped MLK Jr. to find out he would cheat on his wife with prostitutes and then send it to his home, telling him to commit suicide or they would release the tapes?
They are successful when they want to be and unsuccessful when they want to be. You can’t deny the success. The same goes for the US (if I listed their track record, I would be here for a while).
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If the EU decides to make Enlisted famous by putting it on international stage: Good, we get more recognition and more player base.
They can’t touch Enlisted due to it coming out of Russia, which they have no control over. Also, Enlisted is not mobile or in-app stores so we are good at not having to worry about the big boys (Apple, Amazon, Samsung, etc).
.exe will change a man lol
sure i can. with just 2 numbers: 9 11.
track record of entrapping and radicalizing the guys who would never actually do it without their help? whitmer case where they had more informants and fbi agents than actual “terrorists”, not to mention that they financed it all. or when they entrapped mentally ill people, radicalized them, provided financial support and then arrested them
there are serious questions about their efficacy in prevention of terrorist attacks. there was a paper in The Journal of Criminal Law and Criminology examining post 9/11 cases. this is from abstract
This Article remedies this dearth of information by creating and analyzing a database of terrorism prosecutions since 9/11 (n=580), and coding each of the cases involving an informant (n=317) for twenty indicators of potential entrapment. An analysis of the database reveals that entrapment indicators are widespread among terrorism cases, and that the most serious cases, involving specific plots to commit attacks, have significantly more indicators. Cases with several indicators account for a sizable proportion of all cases, especially among alleged cases of jihadi and left-wing terrorism. These results show that facts and allegations supporting an entrapment defense are not confined to a small number of cases, but rather are quite widespread in post-9/11 terrorism cases. The Article also examines the suggestion by a journalist that only 1% of terrorism cases have represented a real security threat. It estimates that the proportion of terrorism prosecutions likely to have thwarted genuine terrorism threats is somewhat higher, though still small—about 9% of all jihadi cases and 5% of jihadi cases involving informants.
and in circles we go again.
DF = latvia
gaijin = hungary
also gaijin/DF rents servers, but idk from who. it could easily be amazon with their aws.
Feds already knew about it and chose to let it happen, proving my point. America didn’t, which is why they were so unified to go slotting terries.
What the CIA knew before 9/11: New details – POLITICO
The CIA’s famous Presidential Daily Brief, presented to George W. Bush on August 6, 2001, has always been Exhibit A in the case that his administration shrugged off warnings of an Al Qaeda attack. But months earlier, starting in the spring of 2001, the CIA repeatedly and urgently began to warn the White House that an attack was coming.
Feds, not America.
Wonderful, I actually know where they are from now. Hungary should be A-OK with the amount of corruption there.
The servers rented can easily be rented somewhere else.