This year according to the 2023 roadmap, gaijin should add two new campaigns on a new basis. I wonder where they are and how they want to manage 2 updates before the end of the year?
The roadmap was only plan not a promise.
We wonât get everything this year, some ideas like the new campaigns might never get added.
Iâd love to see China, France, and Sicily added eventually, but honestly the merge has been such a huge undertaking I doubt weâll see anything major added before the yearâs end.
Merge first then campaigns (maps/factions) are going to come next so next year.
Honestly I think if they didnât begin R&D for a major overhaul after all this time we likely wouldâve gotten the campaigns by now. Heck maybe 2 of them
I was hoping for Italy and Market Garden, or the invasion of Germany so we could get battles like Aachen, Hurtgen Forest, or Operation Plunder
Iâd personally like them to prioritize Belgium, Southern France, Sicily, and Italy but Iâm decidedly partial to the European Theater. My grandpa landed at Anzio (celebrated his 19th birthday in a foxhole pushing back a German counterattack.) The Anzio landing is underrepresented in games because Operation Shingle was historically overshadowed by Overlord.
The German counterattack on the beachhead (before breakout) by the 3rd Panzer Grenadiers and the 4th Parachute Division was fierce and there were many back and forth battles.
The attempt to cross the Gari River[Ed: named the âBattle of the Rapidoâ] while trying to breach the Gustav Line was particularly bloody and the 15th Panzergrenadiers cut off the crossing troops from reinforcements.
âŚItaly would be very fertile ground for a campaign. You have beach battles, river battles, hill battles, forest battles, village battles, urban warfare, and legendary mountain battles. If there had to be âone and only oneâ campaign added, Iâd vote all-in on Sicily and Italy.
Ignore the political reasons. China might be fine if we donât have the merger. but now with the merger. I dont think ita a good idea to have china as a faction until mid-cold war. Just think about it. If we have china as a faction now what are we going to have on the tech tree? are we going to have 20%or30% original weapon? while others are weapon of other countries especially endgame.
Oh yes.
Also a perfect context to allow the addition of more late war Italian gear.
France invasion (culminating at Dunkirk!) would be great, it would be new and offer a new safe place for newcomers with early war things. The French faction has many new tech to offer.
Same for Sicily, more Italian and Commonwealth stuff! And beautiful maps.
china⌠Is the one Iâm least interested in. While the battlefield maps would be amazing, a chinese faction in ww2, not so much⌠Because of the copy paste equipment. They wouldnât come with many new different toys, and I fear DF would have the audacity to make us grind those copy paste weapons anew just because they have chinese names instead!
Iâd also like to see a ww1 theater one day. Most big factions would fit, with ww1 stuff and ww1 maps.
Iâm gonna have to strongly disagree here. China would honestly be an even better idea with the merge. They had so many unique and interesting weapons produced in both workshops and foundries all over the country; some being modified or re-chambered reproductions of existing weapons, and others being strange chimeras or even original designs.
I made a pretty extensive post about it a couple weeks ago, if youâre interested in taking a look.
YES for sicily/italy!
YES for france/belgium early war (maybe even a nice eben emael map!)
also a meh for china for me. but thats more personal preference then anything else.
my addition would be a nice balkans campaign, from yugoslavia to greece to crete:
some wildly different map opportunities, beautiful landscapes.
lots of possibilities for italian and commonwealth (brits, aussies, and kiwis) troops.
and some hungarian, greek or yugoslavian prem/event squads (or lump them together in a âaxis minor armyâ and âallied minor armyâ ? ⌠just a thought)
Itâs why⌠While they differ slightly, theyâre still mostly the same as what other factions have. It would feel like a pain re grinding things just because of small modifications.
Nice new battlefields, but least interesting fsction compared to others when it comes down to equipmentâŚ
- To compare and show Iâm not biased: a china faction would be as uninteresting as a Canadian faction. Thatâs right, the Forum Canadian is telling you a Canadian faction would not be a good idea. Why? Because even if like china, Canada produced and modified a lot of ordinance during ww2, it was ultimately a mix of USA and British equipment and vehicles. So it wouldnât bring anything more to the table, just like china.
I wouldnât mind china as a faction in more cold war times, thought, that I would be on board, as theyâd have more original things.
The thing about an Italian Campaign is that there are so many options for maps that youâd have a challenge to decide which ones have to be cut.
Just spitballing, Iâd think you have to have
-Mt Etna
-Anzio
-âRoad to Romeâ
-Cassino
-The Winter Line
-Bernhardt Line
âŚand thatâs just Sicily and Southern Italy
Operation Olive attacked the Gothic Line with the Fifth and the Eighth. You have the assault in Northern Italy on Monte Castello, Monte Belvedere, and Castelnuevo (all adjacent artillery high points) as Allies pushed into the Alps. Aerial bombardment of the Venice port to cut off resupplies (although the game definitely seems to shy away from vehicle-oriented battles)
âŚliterally any style of fighting (with Mediterranean weather) is available for the choosing.
Not at all! They would be really unique and interesting variations of familiar weapons.
For example:
- Thompson and SMGs converted to accept PPS-43 magazines
- Mauser pistols upscaled to .45 ACP
- ZB LMGs with increased mag capacity and converted to shoot 6.5mm Arisaka
- Type 2 SMGs with redesigned stocks and sights, converted to .45 ACP
- This weird ass thing, which is technically based off the Thompson and chambered in 7.63 mauser, but has really been developed into its own SMG
- Countless MP-28 variants in every caliber and orientation imaginable
- 7.62x39 converted Bren Guns
- A strange bolt-action chimera of the Vz. 24 and Arisaka
- The General Liu rifle, a completely original semi-auto prototype
These are just a few examples. There are so many more!
Pretty much: those are all conversions, modifications of, and re chambered versions of existing weaponsâŚ
I just feel other factions would have more original things to offer. Like war start France, having all original things, or late war Italy and Commonwealth⌠etc. They all bring genuine, original models of which very few are refurbished or converted weapons and vehicles.
China was the first meme gun builder it seems.
Thatâs fair. Iâm honestly split. Iâm personally leaning more towards the Pacific theater. Partially because my grandfather fought in the Pacific, and partially because it reminds me of MoH Rising Sun, which I played the hell out of when I was a kid. Maps like Iwo Jima, the Philippines and Burma would be such interesting battlefields to see in game.
The Sino-Japanese war is also something I really hope to see one day, since it would be so unique and something rarely represented in gaming. It would really help Enlisted stand out.
With all that said, there is still plenty to explore on the European front. Sicily, Dunkirk, the Maginot Line, Battle of the Bulge, Kursk, etc.
thereâs always 2024 for new factions/maps to be added
France is something Iâd like to see too, although Iâm not sure how well they could be implemented with the merge coming. Theyâd need gear for mid-late game too, and they would have been occupied by Germany at that point (Unless weâre also including Vichy France, I suppose, but that comes with its own political issues).
Personally though, after China and Burma/the Philippines for the Pacific I would be most excited to see a Sicilian Campaign added.
If devs keep the âbrâ system they proposed (by maps) it would be possible for them to add any era possible.
ww1 and post war included. Heck. they could even add an official moon battle.
I hope devs wonât revert to numerical br values like war thunder precisely because of this, so we can have different eras that donât intermingle. Like⌠tiger tanks vs 1960 vehicles in WT